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In "Elizabeth 2: The Golden Age", what is the name of that half cape they wear?
Elizabeth 2: The Golden Age" - Half Cape Name
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Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around identifying a specific type of garment referred to as a "half cape" featured in the film "Elizabeth 2: The Golden Age." Participants explore various possibilities regarding the name and style of the garment, including historical context and related clothing types.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant inquires about the name of the half cape worn in the film.
- Another participant suggests that a pelisse, which is often worn on one shoulder, could resemble a half cape.
- A different participant questions whether the garment might be a fencing cape, providing a visual reference.
- One participant elaborates on the distinctions between capes and cloaks, noting historical rules regarding their use based on social rank, and humorously speculates on the implications for Elizabethan Maitre-d's regarding mammal taxonomy.
- A later reply confirms the idea of "fencing capes" as a possible identification of the garment in question.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants do not reach a consensus on the specific name of the half cape, with multiple competing views and interpretations presented regarding its identity and historical context.
Contextual Notes
There are limitations regarding the definitions of the garments discussed, and the historical context may not be fully resolved, particularly concerning the specific rules governing clothing based on rank.
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Jimmy Snyder
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I didn't see the movie, so I can't really say. However, a pelisse is often worn on one shoulder only and could look like a half cape.
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Strictly speaking a cape - a full length cape would be a cloak.
The Elizabethans had very strict rules on what kind of cloak you could wear for your rank, the difference between one trimmed with fox and wolf fur for instance.
I suppose the small ones were to let everyone know you were the 2nd son of an Earl (and had better get a good table) without melting in summer.
It also suggests that Elizabethan Maitre-d's had to be very good at mammal taxonomy!
The Elizabethans had very strict rules on what kind of cloak you could wear for your rank, the difference between one trimmed with fox and wolf fur for instance.
I suppose the small ones were to let everyone know you were the 2nd son of an Earl (and had better get a good table) without melting in summer.
It also suggests that Elizabethan Maitre-d's had to be very good at mammal taxonomy!
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