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Could quarks move in ellipse on ellipse rolling roulettes?
I understand that the math can get messy, but i wonder, since ellipses are seen from solar patterns to atoms, could there be a connection between chaotically moving quarks and ellipse on ellipse roulette patterns, for example?

And since we don't know (with 100% certainty) at the moment, is it merely because it is not able to be measured? Or is there some sort of information gap that could potentially connect the two, but just has not yet happened?

I apologize if this does not make sense, i am not too well versed in these concepts. But i would appreciate any thoughts on this at all, as i am interested in connecting things through patterns and enjoy math and abstract concepts.

Thank you!
 
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You are speaking of quantum effects. I am not an experimental type, and those who are may correct me, but for planetary orbits, quantum effects are negligible.
 
mayflowers said:
since ellipses are seen from solar patterns to atoms
Why do you think ellipses are seen in atoms? Subatomic particles in atoms do not have well-defined trajectories at all.
 
PeterDonis said:
Why do you think ellipses are seen in atoms? Subatomic particles in atoms do not have well-defined trajectories at all.

From my surface level understanding, it seems like the nucleus is the center and maybe electrons move in ellipses. I am wondering if there is any discovery on elliptical patterns in even smaller particles, and what the reasoning is if not.

Spheres seem to be another shape seen a lot in the world.
 
mayflowers said:
From my surface level understanding, it seems like the nucleus is the center and maybe electrons move in ellipses
That's not correct. The electrons don't have well-defined trajectories at all.
 
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