Elliptic Trig: Circles, Hyperbolas & Ellipses

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The discussion centers on the absence of trigonometric functions specifically for ellipses in contrast to those available for circles and hyperbolas. Participants highlight that while trigonometry exists for square hyperbolas and circles, extending these concepts to non-square ellipses presents challenges due to their dual-axis definition. The conversation suggests that defining an elliptic angle based on the major and minor axes could be complex and potentially less useful than existing square functions. Jacobi elliptic functions are mentioned as a related concept worth exploring.

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Why aren't there trigonometric functions for elliptic geometry? There is trigonometry for circles and hyperbolas, but why not ellipses?
 
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Hi JyN! :smile:
JyN said:
There is trigonometry for circles and hyperbolas, but why not ellipses?

ah, there is trigonometry only for the square hyperbola (ie with perpendicular asymptotes), just as there is only for the "square" ellipse (ie the circle). :wink:
 
Why can't trigonometry-like relationships exist for non-square hyperbolas and ellipses?
 
i expect they can be, but why would anyone bother with them, when the "square" functions can easily be adapted for the purpose? :confused:
 
An angle in radians is defined as the length of the arc of a circle over its radius.

A slight problem occurs if you want to extend that to an ellipse because an ellipse is defined by two variables, major axis and minor axis. It would be interesting how to define an elliptic angle, length of arc of an ellipse over major axis or minor axis or their algebraic combination? But in either case, I don't know how this could be useful other than perhaps in an elliptical coordinate system.
 
JyN said:
Why aren't there trigonometric functions for elliptic geometry? There is trigonometry for circles and hyperbolas, but why not ellipses?

Is this what you had in mind? They're called Jacobi elliptic functions.

EDIT: Cross post!
 

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