Encouraging My Younger Brother's Passion for Physics

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The discussion centers around encouraging a younger brother's interest in physics, specifically regarding string theory. Participants explore resources, challenges, and foundational knowledge necessary for understanding string theory, while also addressing the complexities and criticisms associated with the theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that string theory is unlikely to be found in high school textbooks, suggesting it is an advanced topic.
  • Another participant describes string theory as a theory involving quantum strings that hold the universe together.
  • It is mentioned that understanding string theory requires knowledge of classical mechanics, quantum mechanics, thermodynamics, relativity, and advanced mathematics.
  • Recommendations for books on string theory include Brian Greene's work, which is described as accessible yet challenging.
  • Participants suggest watching the PBS documentary based on Greene's "The Elegant Universe" as a helpful introduction to the concepts of string theory.
  • There are suggestions to explore pop science books by authors like Gribbin, which are seen as suitable for pre-university readers.
  • Some participants express skepticism about string theory, highlighting that it does not make testable predictions and referencing critical works by Lee Smolin and Peter Woit.
  • One participant suggests that string theory might be more appropriate for philosophy students with a strong math background.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of enthusiasm for introducing string theory to a younger audience while also acknowledging significant challenges and criticisms of the theory itself. There is no consensus on the best approach to teaching or understanding string theory, nor on its validity as a scientific theory.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of string theory and the prerequisites needed to grasp its concepts, indicating that the discussion is limited by the varying levels of prior knowledge among readers.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in supporting young learners in physics, particularly those exploring advanced topics like string theory, as well as those seeking resources for understanding complex scientific theories.

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I like physics but I am not much good at it. My younger brother has suddenly become quite passionate about it, he's joined the science club and everything. I don't usually post anything here I am more into just reading peoples thoughts, but he's asked me about the string theory and I haven't a clue what to tell him. He has never been a fan of school in fact he has been failing. Suddenly his marks have jumpped and he seems really focused. I want to encourage him, any info in that would spark his interest yet not confuse him (or myself) would be awsome. I don't think I've heard of the string theory. I looked through my physics books but I didnt see anything. Perhaps it has another name? I think it has to do with forces. I hate searching for things online. I get so many contradictions and I never know who I can believe and who is full of it.
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if its a high school textbook, string theory isn't going to be anywhere in there.

its a theory of little quantum strings holding the universe together
 
String theory is one tough cookie. One will need to know classical mechanics, quantum mechanics, thermodynamic, Relativity, as well as some more advanced math such as PDE's, topography, etc... :(
 
Just find and continually buy him books on string theory and the subjects that lead up to it, as per Agnostic's list.

Brian Greene's https://www.amazon.com/dp/0375708111/?tag=pfamazon01-20 is an excellent one. Enough detail to really stretch your brain but still pretty accessible (if you read it twice - and slowly, slow enough so as not to create cranial stretch marks. I'm not kidding on this one).
 
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If you have a pretty decent internet connection, you can download (legally) the PBS documentary based on Brian Greene's "The Elegant Universe" from their website (or plenty of other video websites).

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html

As a sparkly introduction to string theory it's pretty good, though obviously almost completely devoid of specific (which is almost all maths). My parents stopped doing physics over 30 years ago (before even quarks were known to exist!) and they managed to follow the programs and found them entertaining.

Once your little brother has seen that, reading the book might be a bit easier because he can relate the ideas to some of the graphics/animations in the TV show which helps a lot when you're introduced to a Calabi Yau space for the first time! As Dave says above, get him to read it slowly, it's a book you have to concentrate on for large parts.

Other than that, I recommend going to your local decent bookstore and buying a few pop science books. Authors like Gribbin are usually pretty good at explaining quantum or relativity stuff in a way that pre-university people can follow well.
 
Don't forget Michio Kaku's Hyperspace and Parallel Worlds!
 
Not all people are happy with string theory.
Big problem is it doesn't make any testable predictions.

Books along this line
Lee Smolin's The trouble with Physics
and
Peter Woit's Not Even Wrong
 
NoTime said:
Not all people are happy with string theory.
Big problem is it doesn't make any testable predictions.

Books along this line
Lee Smolin's The trouble with Physics
and
Peter Woit's Not Even Wrong

String Theory should be taught to people studying philosophy...assuming they have a very good math background.
 

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