Energy conservation equation to find equation for final velocity

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The discussion centers on deriving the final velocity equation using energy conservation principles, specifically comparing potential and kinetic energy at different points. The initial equation presented is mgH = mgD + 1/2 mv2f, leading to the final velocity formula Vf = √(2g(H-D)). There is some confusion regarding the notation and the definition of points, with suggestions to clarify the labeling of points to avoid ambiguity. Participants emphasize the importance of using consistent symbols for heights and points to enhance understanding. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for clear communication in physics problem-solving.
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Homework Statement
Use an energy conservation equation to find an expression for the skier’s speed as she flies off the ramp at point D. There is negligible friction between the skis and the ramp, and you can ignore the air resistance
Relevant Equations
KE = 1/2 mv²
PE = mgh
Energy conservation: E_A = E_D
I initially thought about the different forms of energy present at each of the points:
Total energy at starting point: PEA+ KEA= mgH

at point D:
KE_D = 1/2mv2f PED= mgD
Energy at point D: PED+ KED
D = mgD + 1/2 mv2f

because EA= ED

mgH = mgD = 1/2 mv2f
mg(H-D) = 1/2 mv2f
g(H-D) = 1/2 v2f
so my Vf
came out to be the √2g(H-D)

I have checked this with one of my friends work and he has got a completely different answer to this. This seems logical to me, but I'm new to physics so I would appreciate someone pointing me in the right direction (not providing the solution). Thanks everyone!
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You are correct.
 
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Racoon5 said:
Energy conservation: E_A = E_D
There is not a point A. ##E_H=E_D##?
Racoon5 said:
mgH = mgD = 1/2 mv2f
Presumably you meant mgH = mgD + 1/2 mv2f
Racoon5 said:
came out to be the √2g(H-D)
What you have written means (√2)g(H-D).
To show it correctly you can write √(2g(H-D)) or use LaTeX:
##\sqrt{2g(H-D)}##
 
haruspex said:
There is not a point A. ##E_H=E_D##?

Presumably you meant mgH = mgD + 1/2 mv2f

What you have written means (√2)g(H-D).
To show it correctly you can write √(2g(H-D)) or use LaTeX:
##\sqrt{2g(H-D)}##
Thanks! You have a good point calling it point H. Perhaps I should define the points (A = initial, B = end of ramp, C = on the ground).
 
Racoon5 said:
Thanks! You have a good point calling it point H. Perhaps I should define the points (A = initial, B = end of ramp, C = on the ground).
Yes, that is better than using the same symbol for a point and its height.
If H and D had not been given, I would have used uppercase for the points (A, B say) and lowercase for the heights: a, b.
 
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