Energy Conservation in an expanded 1D box

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the conservation of energy in the context of quantum mechanics, specifically regarding a one-dimensional particle in a box that suddenly expands. Participants explore whether energy is conserved when the potential changes due to the expansion of the box.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether energy is conserved during the expansion of the box, suggesting that the potential V(x) becomes time-dependent.
  • Another participant agrees that the change in the box implies a change in potential, leading to the conclusion that the Hamiltonian changes and thus is not conserved.
  • A third participant asserts that an external force moving the wall does work on the system, indicating that energy is not conserved.
  • A later reply acknowledges the time-dependence of the potential but suggests avoiding the time-dependent Schrödinger equation, noting that the original wavefunction can be viewed as a superposition of new wavefunctions corresponding to the new potential.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the box's expansion on energy conservation, with some agreeing that energy is not conserved due to the changing potential, while others focus on the implications of the wavefunction's behavior without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexities involved in the transition of the system's potential and the implications for the Hamiltonian, with unresolved considerations regarding the treatment of the wavefunction during the expansion.

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I am fairly new to QM and am learning many of the basics right now. We were just discussing conservation of operators (energy, momentum, etc) and I recalled a problem proposed in my textbook about a 1D particle in a box of length L. at a time t, the box suddenly expands to t=2L, in which time the wavefunction does not have time respond. it asked if energy (more specifically, <H>) was conserved during the time that the wall moves.

i'm assuming that the laws of conservation aren't broken and that the Hamiltonian does not change. but then does the fact that the box expanded at a specific time, mean that then the potential V(x) is now a function of time? so then is energy is not conserved since I have to consider the potential in the Hamiltonian now?
 
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OK now I'm assuming that since the box changes, the potential does change and thus <H> is not equal to <H'>. Is this correct?
 
That's correct. An external force moved the wall, doing work on the system, so the energy of the system is not conserved.
 
Yes, technically your potential is now a function of time, but you don't want to solve the time-dependent Schrödinger equation. Because the wavefunction doesn't change, Your old wavefunction is a superposition of your new set of wavefuncitons describing your new ISW potential.
 

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