Energy level of a 'protonium atom' (answer Check)

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the energy of a photon emitted during a transition in a protonium atom, which is a hydrogen-like structure with an antiproton replacing the electron. The problem involves understanding the energy levels and transitions in this exotic atom, specifically from the principal quantum number n = 4 to n = 2.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the Rydberg energy for protonium and the implications of using reduced mass in the energy equations. There are questions regarding the correctness of the initial calculations and the expected magnitude of the energy values.

Discussion Status

The conversation has progressed with participants providing feedback on calculations and suggesting corrections. There is a recognition of the large values obtained and a shift towards more reasonable estimates. Some participants have confirmed agreement with the revised calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are operating under the constraints of homework guidelines, focusing on the electromagnetic interactions and the specific properties of protonium without external references or solutions.

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Homework Statement



In 1989, a new type of exotic atom called protonium was produced. Its
structure is hydrogen-like, with the electron replaced by an antiproton. As
the antiparticle of the proton, an antiproton has the same mass but
opposite charge. In this problem, you should consider only the
electromagnetic interaction between the antiproton and the proton, by
analogy with ordinary hydrogen. The mass of the proton is 1836 times
larger than the mass of an electron.

2)

What is the energy in eV of a photon emitted when protonium
undergoes a transition from the state with principal quantum
number n = 4 to the state with n = 2?

Homework Equations



[tex]E_n = \frac{E_r}{n}[/tex]

[tex]E_r = -\frac{m}{2\hbar^2}\left(\frac{e^2}{4\pi\epsilon_0}\right)^2[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



Okay, so I have done this question, but my answer seems really large...

using:

[tex]\Delta E_{4 > 2} = \frac{E_r}{4^2} - \frac{E_r}{2^2}[/tex]

using the constants:

m = 1.67 e-27
hbar = 1.054e-34
e = -1.6e-19
epsilon-naught = 8.85e-12

I have gotten the Rydberg energy, [tex]E_r = 1.73 * 10^{13}[/tex]

I have thus got a value for the energy shift of -3.24 e12 Joules, which is [tex]2 *10^{31}[/tex] eV. This seems to big. does this answer seem reasonable...?
 
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Well, it's going to be large, because [tex]E_r[/tex] is proportional to mass and there's a lot more of it in this "protonium" than in hydrogen. But I do see a couple of things to fix: I think you may have done your calculation of [tex]E_r[/tex] incorrectly - I get a value on the order of 10^4 eV. Go back and check that.

Also, when you have a two-particle system, you use the reduced mass in place of m:
[tex]\mu = \frac{m_1 m_2}{m_1 + m_2}[/tex]
 
I expected it to be large, just not that large.

Okay, so the reduced mass is [tex]8.35 * 10^{-28}kg[/tex] from previous question. :redface:

Okay so if I work through this...

[tex]E_r = -\frac{\mu}{2\hbar^2}\left(\frac{e^2}{4\pi\epsilon_0} \right)^2[/tex]

[tex]-\frac{\mu}{2\hbar^2} = -\frac{8.35*10^{-28}}{2*(1.054*10^{-34})^2} = 3.76 * 10^{40}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{e^2}{4\pi\epsilon_0} = \frac{(1.6*10^{-19})^2}{4\pi*(8.85*10^{-12})} = 2.3 * 10^{-28}[/tex]

square this:

[tex]5.3 * 10^{-56}[/tex]

put together gives:

[tex]E_r = 1.99*10^{-15}[/tex]

?
 
What are the units of that?

Always keep track of units - if not explicitly, at least make sure you know what units your final answer is going to be in, and write them down! You can't get a correct answer without the correct units.
 
The units would be Joules since:

[tex] <br /> \mu = kg<br /> <br /> \hbar = Js<br /> <br /> e = C<br /> <br /> \epsilon_0 = C^2/nm^2<br /> [/tex]

also this does convert to [tex]1.2 x 10^4[/tex] eV.

And this new value gives me a change of energy of [tex]-2.25 * 10^3[/tex] eV, which seems more reasonable.
 
That agrees with my calculations :smile:
 
Excellent. :smile:

Many Thanks.
 

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