Energy necessary to put something in orbit

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The discussion revolves around calculating the energy required to place an object in orbit around the Earth, starting from a state of rest. Participants are exploring the implications of initial and final energy states in the context of orbital mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the initial kinetic energy (Ki) of the object at rest and its implications for achieving orbital velocity. There is a discussion about the relationship between initial and final energy states, and the need for clarity on what is meant by "at rest" in relation to Earth's rotation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants raising important questions about the wording of the problem and the assumptions involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to determine the initial kinetic energy required for orbit, but there is no consensus on the interpretation of the problem's parameters.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem lacks clarity regarding the radius of the orbit and the specific conditions under which the object is considered to be at rest. This ambiguity may affect how the energy calculations are approached.

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Homework Statement


Object A is at rest relative to the Earth and we want to put it in orbit around the earth, how much energy is necessary to do so?

Homework Equations



Ki+Ui=Kf+Uf+energy input[/B]

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what i don't understand is, if the body is at rest, Ki=0, but don't we need a certain inicial velocity to put it in orbit? So shouldn't Ki have a value?[/B]
 
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I think that is exactly what the question requires you to answer. That is how much initial kinetic energy is required to put the rocket in orbit around the Earth at a certain distance above the surface of the earth.
 
Point 1: If Ki+Ui is the initial total energy of the object while at rest with respect to the Earth and Kf+Uf is the final energy of the object in orbit, Then why would you add energy to the total final energy to get the total initial energy?

Point 2: Just relating initial energy, added energy, and final energy is not enough, you also need to know how to determine what final energy is needed for the orbiting object.
 
undividable said:
Object A is at rest relative to the Earth and we want to put it in orbit around the earth, how much energy is necessary to do so?
Is that the whole question? It is very poorly worded.
What does at rest relative to the Earth mean? I could read that as including Earth's rotation, so at the right radius it would be in geostationary orbit already.
It does not say the radius is to be unchanged.
It should provide some variable in terms of which you can express the answer; that could be the height (from Earth's centre), or its GPE, or ...?
 

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