Energy to separate one molecule of water from a single neighbour

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The discussion centers around estimating the energy required to separate one molecule of water from its nearest neighbor in ice, given that each H2O molecule has four nearest neighbors. The original poster provides a calculation based on the heat required to convert ice to vapor and questions the validity of their reasoning.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts a calculation involving the total energy to convert ice to vapor and questions the significance of unused bonds in their reasoning. Other participants discuss the validity of the multiplication factor used and clarify the structure of ice molecules.

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Some participants are engaging with the original poster's reasoning, offering clarifications and questioning specific aspects of the calculation. There is no explicit consensus yet, but the discussion is exploring different interpretations of the molecular interactions in ice.

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The original poster raises concerns about the assumptions made regarding the molecular structure of ice and the relevance of unused bonds, indicating potential constraints in their reasoning.

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Question:

The amount of heat required to convert 1g of ice into vapour is approx. 3000J. Estimate the energy required to separate one molecule from a single neighbour, assuming that in ice, each H2O molecule has four nearest neighbours. [Mr(water) = 18)

My reasoning:

3000 x 2 / [1/18 mole x NA x 4] = 4.5 E-20 J

Because each molecule is attracted to 4 other molecules -- hence the product of the number of water molecules with 4. And since I'm looking for the energy required to separate one molecule from a single neighbour, I multiplied the division by 2.

Is this reasoning valid? Haven't we ignored the unused bonds of the water molecules at the outermost part of the ice cube? How significant is it to take into consideration those unused bonds?

If the reasoning is wrong, could anyone please point to me the proper way of attempting the question (rather than getting a fortuitous answer)?
 
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I think the reasoning is almost correct. I don't understand why you multiplied by two, though. Each molecule has four neighbors. And the term you get without multiplying the two, is the binding energy between them for each neighbor.

Also, there are no 'outermost bonds'. It is somewhat like a football structure, closed on itself, so each ice molecule is joined to four others.
 

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