Engineering: Routes & Foundations for a Career

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The discussion revolves around the pathways to a career in engineering, particularly the foundational education required and the relationship between physics and various engineering disciplines. Participants explore the implications of choosing a physics degree versus an engineering degree and the potential career outcomes associated with each.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about which type of engineering to pursue and questions whether an undergraduate degree in physics could lead to an engineering job.
  • Another participant suggests that while some individuals with physics degrees find engineering jobs, this is less common, especially in civil or mechanical engineering, and emphasizes the differences in curriculum between physics and engineering.
  • A third participant highlights the overlap between physics and materials science/engineering, noting that materials science involves manipulating material properties for practical applications.
  • Some participants recommend pursuing an engineering degree directly for better job prospects in engineering fields, while others mention the possibility of entering an "engineering-undecided" track in university.
  • There is mention of engineering physics programs that combine engineering courses with physics, which may provide a suitable alternative for those interested in both fields.
  • One participant points out that many universities offer a general first year for engineering students to explore different branches before declaring a specific discipline.
  • Another participant suggests that one could major in physics or engineering physics and later specialize in a particular engineering discipline, though this may require significant effort.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that pursuing an engineering degree is advisable for those seeking engineering jobs, but there is disagreement on the viability of a physics degree as a pathway into engineering roles. Multiple competing views exist regarding the overlap between physics and engineering, particularly in materials science.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying opinions on the educational paths available, highlighting the differences in curriculum focus between physics and engineering. There is also mention of the need for clarity on the specific engineering discipline one wishes to pursue, which may influence educational choices.

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I'm glad I found this site, it has helped me over the last week decided what I want to do. With thanks to Russ-watters and his thread, and wikipedia, I've decided to put my all into being an engineer.
But I'm not sure what type of engineer I want to be, there are so many! I like the sound of designing structures and buildings and materials etc, but I may change my mind.

What is a sound foundation for engineering? If I take an undergrad in physics, could that lead to an engineering job?

Thanks

PS ANY advice would be greatly appricieated
 
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joelio36 said:
I'm glad I found this site, it has helped me over the last week decided what I want to do. With thanks to Russ-watters and his thread, and wikipedia, I've decided to put my all into being an engineer.
But I'm not sure what type of engineer I want to be, there are so many! I like the sound of designing structures and buildings and materials etc, but I may change my mind.

What is a sound foundation for engineering? If I take an undergrad in physics, could that lead to an engineering job?

Thanks

PS ANY advice would be greatly appricieated

If you are sure you want to go into engineering, but do not know what field, see if your school will allow you to enter into an "engineering-undecided" track or something of the like.

While I have seen people get engineering jobs with physics degrees, they were smaller in number, and mostly took electrical engineering positions. Physics and engineering, while have many common points, are very different courses of study. The physics studied during most of an undergraduate physics curriculum is different than what you are used to from high school. It can get much more abstract and much less "engineering oriented" as you move along through the courses. For this reason, I suggest that you don't major in physics if you know that some form of engineering is what you want to do. It would be much more advantageous to get an engineering degree.
 
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In the field of materials science/engineering there is a lot of overlap between physics and engineering. Materials science is mostly concerned with (surprise!) the properties of materials - and manipulating these properties to create iPods, cell phones, little blue LEDs, cheap superconducting magnets for MRI machines, etc, etc.

Outside of materials science there is not very much overlap between physics and engineering. There are quite a few people with physics degrees who end up doing engineering-type jobs - but usually not in civil or mechanical engineering.

However, I do have a friend who got hired at Boeing working on nasty fluid flow problems after doing a PhD on black holes in funky dimensions.

Have you considered looking for "engineering physics" programs? An engineering course requires many more applied classes than a physics course. Engineering physics requires a lot of engineering courses (usually electrical engineering) along with some materials physics courses.
 
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If you want an engineering job, you should go to school for engineering not physics.

There are a lot of engineering programs that have a general first year for all students to expose the students to the different branches of engineering. Then after the first year the students declare a discipline. I doubt all programs do this, but I know there are a good number of schools that do.
 
Perhaps the first step would be to decide what type of engineering one wishes to do, e.g. Civil, Mechanical, Electrical, Chemical, Aerospace, Nuclear, Materials, . . . . Most universities have departments based on engineering specialty.

One could major in physics or engineering physics as an undergrad, and then specialize.

Or one could major in physics and a particular engineering discipline, but that would require tremendous effort and discipline.
 

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