Engineering vs B.Sc. for Quantum Mechanics & General Relativity

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The discussion centers on the educational pathways for understanding quantum mechanics and general relativity, particularly comparing engineering degrees (BTech) with Bachelor of Science (BSc) degrees. Participants explore the depth of these theories taught in engineering programs versus physics programs, and the implications for students interested in these advanced topics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern that engineering programs primarily focus on practical applications and Newtonian mechanics, with limited coverage of quantum mechanics (QM) and general relativity (GR).
  • Another participant confirms that QM and GR were not included in their engineering curriculum, suggesting a lack of depth in these areas within engineering degrees.
  • There is a suggestion that students might have the option to take elective courses in QM and GR, depending on the university's offerings.
  • A participant notes that the level of physics taught in engineering is generally less rigorous compared to a pure physics degree, indicating that exotic topics like QM and GR are unlikely to be covered in depth unless one pursues a degree in "engineering physics."
  • One participant reflects on their experience, stating that many students may not fully understand what engineering entails until they begin their studies, and they express a desire to pursue more theoretical knowledge after their engineering degree.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that engineering programs do not provide a deep understanding of quantum mechanics and general relativity, with multiple views on the extent of coverage and the possibility of electives. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best educational path for gaining a deeper understanding of these theories.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention variability in course offerings based on different universities, and there is an acknowledgment that engineering is a vocationally oriented degree, which may limit exposure to theoretical physics topics.

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I'm interested in topics like quantum mechanics and general relativity. I want to do engineering but I doubt if these theories are taught to them in detail. I have a mechanical engineering 1st year physics book and it has basics of special relativity and quantum mechanics and just 2 pages on general relativity. But those books do not contain the math of these theories. So, will these theories be taught a little deeper in later years of engineering? I think engineers are only taught more practical things (mostly Newtonian mechanics).
Should I do BTech or BSc to get a deep understanding of these theories? OR Should I do post graduation courses on Physics after BTech to get into these theories?
 
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Prem1998 said:
I think engineers are only taught more practical things (mostly Newtonian mechanics)
Yes, QM or GR was not mentioned even once in the four years of my BE (mech.).

why not check for yourself? Most universities have all the course descriptions for all their degrees online.
 
Prem1998 said:
So, will these theories be taught a little deeper in later years of engineering?

I would be very surprised if they were.
 
Do you want to be an engineer and understand these theories better? I would be surprised if you couldn't just take some of these courses as electives.

I suppose the university might make a difference too. I go to one of those research universities, and I often hear criticism for being too theoretical for engineers.
 
You will learn about technology (the science behind it, how to create new ones, the skills needed for the systems) in engineering. Some basic science at the bachelor level and a decent amount of mathematics depending on the universities you attend but nothing compared to the level of physics in a pure physics degree... so such exotic physics topics will probably not be taught at the bachelor degree level unless you do the new degree known as "engineering physics".

Remember that engineering is a vocationally oriented degree. The skills and knowledge taught is very different.

Many students often don't know what engineering is, until they start studying it, and I believe so far I can say the above description has held true for me. It is fun but I would like to continue to something more theoretical after this :) I attend an average university but have never seen quantum mechanics as part of a mechanical/ electrical/chemical engineering bachelor.
 
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