Entropy, heat death and black holes

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the lifespan of black holes in the context of the heat death of the universe. Participants explore whether black holes exhaust their energy and what the implications of their potential evaporation are, particularly through the mechanism of Hawking radiation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that black holes do evaporate over an extremely long timescale, potentially taking around 10^100 years for large supermassive black holes.
  • One participant presents a formula for estimating a black hole's lifetime based on its mass relative to the sun, suggesting a relationship between mass and evaporation time.
  • There is a discussion about Hawking radiation, where it is suggested that particle-antiparticle pairs near the event horizon can lead to mass loss for the black hole as one particle escapes while the other is absorbed.
  • Another participant elaborates on the temperature of black holes, noting that while they are typically very cold, they become significantly hotter just before complete evaporation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that black holes can evaporate through Hawking radiation, but the specifics of their lifespans and the implications of this process remain a topic of exploration and debate.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about the nature of black holes and the conditions under which they evaporate, as well as the dependence on their mass. There are unresolved details regarding the exact mechanisms and timescales involved.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring theoretical astrophysics, cosmology, and the implications of black hole physics in the context of the universe's fate.

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Talking about the big bounce and black holes in another thread made me wonder about the life span of black holes, especially in the heat death scenario.

If the U went through heat death, does that mean that black holes would also exhaust their energy? Do black holes die, and if so, what happens? I seem to remember a theory about black holes emitting radiation and eventually evaporating, depending on their size.
 
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Yes, black holes evaporate very slowly and eventually evaporate entirely. But it takes a long, long time. As in around 10^100 years for a large supermassive black hole.
 
One can 'experiment' and possibly amuse oneself with a black hole's lifetime using the following formula:

t_{life} = 10^{66} years (M_{bh} / M_{sun})^{3}

The mass of the sun is about 2 X 10^30 kg

Reference: Black Holes A Traveler's Guide, Pickover, P.112
 
narrator said:
I seem to remember a theory about black holes emitting radiation and eventually evaporating, depending on their size.



Your talking about 'Hawking Radiation" What happens is that particle/anti particle pairs that come into existense at or near the BH event horizon become separated. One particle gets sucked in due to the BH, and the other escapes, therefore the BH slowly losses mass over time. It has temperature, It radiates.
 
alex2515 said:
Your talking about 'Hawking Radiation" What happens is that particle/anti particle pairs that come into existense at or near the BH event horizon become separated. One particle gets sucked in due to the BH, and the other escapes, therefore the BH slowly losses mass over time. It has temperature, It radiates.
And this temperature is usually very cold but will get very hot just before the black hole totally evaporates. From the earlier reference I listed, the temperature at the black hole event horizon is:

T_{horizon} = \frac{6 X 10^{-8} Kelvin}{M_{bh} / M_{sun}}
 

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