Equation of hyperbola confocal with ellipse having same principal axes

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The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a hyperbola that is confocal with a given ellipse, which has been defined by its equation. The ellipse's properties, such as its center, semi-major and semi-minor axes, and eccentricity, have been calculated, but participants are struggling to derive the corresponding hyperbola's equation.

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  • Participants discuss the properties of the ellipse and the conditions for the confocal hyperbola. There is uncertainty about the relationship between the lengths of the principal axes and whether multiple hyperbolas can satisfy the given conditions. Questions arise regarding the sufficiency of information to derive the hyperbola's equation and how to verify certain conditions without it.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of confocal conic sections, but there is no consensus on how to proceed with finding the hyperbola's equation or verifying the conditions mentioned.

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Participants note that the question does not imply a unique hyperbola and that multiple options may need to be considered. There is also a suggestion that the information provided may be insufficient to derive the hyperbola's equation directly.

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If the ellipse $$4x^2+9y^2+12x+12y+5=0$$ is confocal with a hyperbola having same principal axes then:
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The equation of ellipse reduces to :
$$(2x+3)^2+(3y+2)^2=8$$
$$\frac{(x+3/2)^2}{8/4}+\frac{(y+2/3)^2}{8/9}=1$$

Center of ellipse =##\left(\frac{-3}{2},\frac{-2}{3}\right)##

##b^2=a^2(1-e^2)=8/9## and ##a^2=8/4##
Therefore ##e=\frac{\sqrt{5}}{3}##

Distance between foci=##\frac{2\sqrt{10}}{3}##
Length of latus rectum of ellipse is 2 times the value of ##y## obtained on putting ##x=ae## and is equal to ##\frac{8\sqrt{2}}{9}##
Now comes the difficult part :
Finding the equation of hyperbola. I simply can't seem to do it.

For confocal hyperbola,
$$\frac{x^2}{a^2}-\frac{y^2}{b^2}=1\text{ and } ae=\frac{\sqrt{10}}{3}$$.
If principal axes have same length they become the same curve so I think principal axes are unequal in length but coincident.

I don't know what to do next ? I think there's insufficient information to get the equation of hyperbola.
 
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Also just to clarify more than one options are correct so all need to be checked
 
The question does not imply there is a unique hyperbola meeting those conditions. The question is whether every such hyperbola satisfies A and D.
 
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haruspex said:
The question does not imply there is a unique hyperbola meeting those conditions. The question is whether every such hyperbola satisfies A and D.
So without knowing the equation of hyperbol, how can A and D be verified?
 

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