Equilibrium Forces: Force to Move a Mass

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The discussion focuses on calculating the tension (T) required to maintain static equilibrium for a mass subjected to forces, including normal force (FN) and frictional force (Ff). The known normal force is 268.08 N, and the tension is initially assumed to be 34 N. However, the correct approach involves recognizing that T is variable and must be calculated based on the maximum value before sliding occurs. The derived formula for T is T = umg / (cos(angle) + u sin(angle)), which yields a value of 94.65 N, indicating a need for further verification of calculations.

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0=Tsin(angle)+Ff
So I already know the normal force is 268.08 from a previous part of the question. I thought that the friction force must be less or equal to uFN for an object to stay in static equilibrium.

So Tcos(angle)=uFN

T=uFN/cos(angle)=116.49

But the answer is suppose to be 133.37.
 

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JoeyBob said:
So I already know the normal force is 268.08 from a previous part of the question.
But the normal force depends on the force ##T## which is an unknown.
 
TSny said:
But the normal force depends on the force ##T## which is an unknown.
T isn't an unknown. T=34
 
JoeyBob said:
T isn't an unknown. T=34
Isn't the value T = 34 N used for a previous part of the problem? In the part of the problem that you are now working on, you are looking for the maximum value that T can have before the block starts to slide. So, the value of T that you are looking for is unknown. You cannot assume that the normal force is the same in both parts of the problem. As T is increases, N increases.
 
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TSny said:
Isn't the value T = 34 N used for a previous part of the problem? In the part of the problem that you are now working on, you are looking for the maximum value that T can have before the block starts to slide. So, the value of T that you are looking for is unknown. You cannot assume that the normal force is the same in both parts of the problem. As T is increases, N increases.

So FN=mg-Tsin(angle).

Ff=umg-uTsin(angle)

0=Tcos(angle)-umg+uTsin(angle)

T=umg/(cos(angle)+usin(angle))

This gives me 94.65, which is still wrong.
 
JoeyBob said:
So FN=mg-Tsin(angle).
Check the signs in this equation. Otherwise, things are looking good.
 
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TSny said:
Check the signs in this equation. Otherwise, things are looking good.
Thanks
 

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