Equivalence Relation, prove dom(R) = range(R) = X

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The discussion revolves around proving properties of an equivalence relation R defined over a nonempty set X, specifically that the domain and range of R are equal to X.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the properties of equivalence relations, including reflexivity, symmetry, and transitivity. There is confusion regarding the definitions of domain and range, particularly the mention of a set Y that does not seem to apply in this context. Some participants attempt to connect the properties of R to the definitions of domain and range.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on how to connect their understanding of reflexivity to the conclusions about domain and range. Some guidance has been offered regarding the implications of reflexivity for the domain, but questions remain about the range.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of a set Y in the context of the problem, which raises questions about the definitions being used. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the properties of R are correctly applied to the definitions of domain and range.

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Homework Statement


Given:
R is an equivalence relation over a nonempty set X

Prove:
dom(R) = X
and range(R) = X

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I have the following thoughts:
About the given:
Since R is an equivalence relation over X by hypothesis, R satisfies:
Reflexivity: <x,x> belongs to R
Symmetry: <x,y> belongs to R, and <y,x> belongs to R
Transitivity: <x,y> belongs to R, <y,z> belongs to R, and <x,z> belongs to R

with x, y, z E X

About the conclusion:
Base on definition of domain and range of a relation R over a set X, I have:
dom(R) = {x E X : there exists y belongs to Y such that <x,y> E R}
range(R) = {y E Y : there exists x belongs to X such that <x,y> E R} What I'm confused is that I don't know how to connect my ideas together. The properties that R satisfies is with x, y, and z E X. And R is a subset of X x X. There is no Y whatsoever. So what should I do (or say) next to come to the conclusion?Thank you for your help.
 
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Ceci020 said:

Homework Statement


Given:
R is an equivalence relation over a nonempty set X

Prove:
dom(R) = X
and range(R) = X


Homework Equations




The Attempt at a Solution


I have the following thoughts:
About the given:
Since R is an equivalence relation over X by hypothesis, R satisfies:
Reflexivity: <x,x> belongs to R
Symmetry: <x,y> belongs to R, and <y,x> belongs to R
Transitivity: <x,y> belongs to R, <y,z> belongs to R, and <x,z> belongs to R

with x, y, z E X

About the conclusion:
Base on definition of domain and range of a relation R over a set X, I have:
dom(R) = {x E X : there exists y belongs to Y such that <x,y> E R}
range(R) = {y E Y : there exists x belongs to X such that <x,y> E R}


What I'm confused is that I don't know how to connect my ideas together. The properties that R satisfies is with x, y, and z E X. And R is a subset of X x X. There is no Y whatsoever. So what should I do (or say) next to come to the conclusion?


Thank you for your help.

Reflexive is ALL you need. <x,x> is in R for ALL x in X, yes?
 
I'm sorry but can you explain a little bit more?

I think that since for all x in X, <x,x> is always in R holds, then according to the conditions of the domain, there indeed exists x E X such that there also exists a Y (namely, y = x) that makes <x,y> E R. But how about the range?

thank you
 
Ceci020 said:
I'm sorry but can you explain a little bit more?

I think that since for all x in X, <x,x> is always in R holds, then according to the conditions of the domain, there indeed exists x E X such that there also exists a Y (namely, y = x) that makes <x,y> E R. But how about the range?

thank you

If <a,b> is in R, then 'a' is in the domain and 'b' is in the range, right?
 

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