Escape velocity when in earth's orbit

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the velocity required for a spacecraft to transition from Earth's orbit to Mars orbit using a transfer orbit approach. Participants explore the application of Kepler's 3rd law and the Vis Viva equation, addressing unit conversions and escape velocity considerations.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to determine the velocity needed for a spacecraft at the start of its journey from Earth's orbit, using the Vis Viva equation.
  • Another participant questions whether the gravitational constant G is expressed in astronomical units (AU).
  • A participant proposes a specific velocity of 3.27 * 10^4 m/s as a potential escape velocity for the spacecraft.
  • It is suggested that if both r and a are set to AU and G and M to 1, the resulting units correspond to Earth's average orbital speed, yielding v^2=1, with a note that this is a simplification.
  • There are requests for conversion of the calculated speed into miles per second, indicating a need for practical understanding of the velocity in different units.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate units for calculations and the validity of the proposed escape velocity, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the units of G and M, as well as the simplifications involved in ignoring Earth's mass for the calculations.

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This discussion may be useful for students and enthusiasts interested in orbital mechanics, spacecraft navigation, and the application of Kepler's laws in astrodynamics.

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I have a problem where it ask to find the period/time(using Kepler's 3rd law) of an unpowered spacecraft to move from Earth's orbit to Mars orbit using the transfer orbit approach.

I found P/T using kepler's 3rd law but the second part ask to find how fast the spacecraft need to be moving at the beginning of its trip i.e while in Earth's orbit using

V2= GM(2/r-1/a) where a is the semi-major axis of the orbit, r distance from the sun.

Now the units of a is in astronomical units and r can also be AU, what units would V^2 be if I use AU for both r and a in the Vis Viva equation above?
 
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Is a velocity of 3.27 * 104 m/s seems correct for an escape velocity of a unpowered spacecraft that use the least energy transfer orbit to escape the Earth's orbit and head to Mar's orbit?
 
If you set r & a equal to AU, and G & M equal to 1, the the units are Earth's average orbital speed, thus v^2=1. Actually slightly different to its real speed because we're ignoring Earth's mass, but that's a refinement for more advanced computations.
 
Can someone please translate that into miles per second?
 
try google
 
Radrook said:
Can someone please translate that into miles per second?

Earth's orbital speed is 18.5 mi/s on average.
 

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