Estimate the cost for tyres using the mean

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The discussion revolves around estimating the annual cost of tyres based on their running distance before becoming unsuitable for use. Participants explore the calculation of the mean running distance of the tyres, the modal class, and how to apply this information to estimate costs for a businessman with multiple vehicles. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and practical application.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant identifies the modal class as 36-42 and calculates an assumed mean running distance of 58.5 km.
  • Another participant suggests calculating the number of tyres needed based on the average distance each tyre can run before wearing out, which is proposed to be 58,500 km.
  • There is a discussion about the initial purchasing cost of tyres, which is calculated as $400,000 for 10 cars, each with 4 tyres.
  • One participant points out that the question asks for the "annual cost," implying a need for a different approach to the calculation over multiple years.
  • Another participant raises a question about how many years should be considered for the annual cost calculation.
  • Concerns are expressed about the accuracy of a mean value obtained from an online calculator, which is stated to be 37, and whether this affects the overall calculations.
  • There is a correction regarding the calculation of frequency times mid-value for the first class interval, suggesting it should be 21 instead of 18.
  • One participant proposes a formula for calculating the annual cost of one tyre based on its expected lifespan and replacement frequency.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct mean value and its implications for the cost calculations. There is no consensus on the accuracy of the mean or the correct approach to estimating the annual cost of tyres, indicating multiple competing views remain.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential inaccuracies in the mean calculation and the assumptions regarding the lifespan of the tyres, which could affect the final cost estimation. The discussion does not resolve these uncertainties.

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Data obtained from a survey conducted by a tyre manufacturing company, using a sample of 60 tyres of a certain category, on the distance tyres ran before they became unsuitable for further use.


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i. What is the modal class

ii. Taking the mid value of the modal class as the assumed mean , or otherwise , FInd the mean running distance of the tyres

iii. A businessman who uses tyres of the above category for his 10 motor cars each having four wheels , needs to estimate the annual cost for tyres. Assuming that every motor car runs 25,000 km a year on average and the price of one tyre is $ 10,000 estimate the cost.

What has already been done by myself:

Found out the modal class which is 36-42.

I calculated the assumed mean.

Class intervalMid value(x)Deviation(d)frequency(f)fd
18-2430-271-27
24-3039-185-90
30-3648-96-54
36-42570260
42-4866915135
48-5475187126
Σf=60Σfd=90

$Mean=Assumed mean+\frac{Σfd}{Σf}$

$Mean=57+\frac{90}{60}$
$Mean=57+\frac{2}{3}$
$Mean=58\frac{1}{2}$Where do I need help

Thinking that I have correctly found the mean, to build that argument in iii.

iii. A businessman who uses tyres of the above category for his 10 motor cars each having four wheels , needs to estimate the annual cost for tyres. Assuming that every motor car runs 25,000 km a year on average and the price of one tyre is $ 10,000 estimate the cost.

Many Thanks :)
 

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mathlearn said:
iii. A businessman who uses tyres of the above category for his 10 motor cars each having four wheels , needs to estimate the annual cost for tyres. Assuming that every motor car runs 25,000 km a year on average and the price of one tyre is $ 10,000 estimate the cost.

Hey mathlearn! ;)

Just putting all the information next to each other, we need:
10 motor cars times 4 tires times 25,000 km a year.

We know each tire runs 58,500 km on average before running out.
So dividing by that number tells us how many tires we need per year (on average).

Multiply by the cost per tire to get the estimate of the yearly cost.
 
I like Serena said:
Hey mathlearn! ;)

Just putting all the information next to each other, we need:
10 motor cars times 4 tires times 25,000 km a year.

We know each tire runs 58,500 km on average before running out.
So dividing by that number tells us how many tires we need per year (on average).

Multiply by the cost per tire to get the estimate of the yearly cost.

So the distance run by the 4 tyres of each car are equal.

As the distance run by a tyre before worn out is greater than the distance expected by the cars to run , The tyres which are already used in the cars would be sufficient.

Then the cost of tyres would be 4*10*10,000=400,000 $

Correct? :)
 
mathlearn said:
So the distance run by the 4 tyres of each car are equal.

As the distance run by a tyre before worn out is greater than the distance expected by the cars to run , The tyres which are already used in the cars would be sufficient.

Then the cost of tyres would be 4*10*10,000=400,000 $

Correct? :)

That's correct to find the initial purchasing cost.
However, the question asks for the "annual cost" instead.
That assumes we'll be using them for many years, and we want to know what it will take on average in anyone year.
 
I like Serena said:
That's correct to find the initial purchasing cost.
However, the question asks for the "annual cost" instead.
That assumes we'll be using them for many years, and we want to know what it will take on average in anyone year.

So how many years should be considered ? (Happy)
 
mathlearn said:
So how many years should be considered ? (Happy)

It doesn't say - we can treat it as an infinite number of years, effectively making the initial purchasing cost irrelevant. (Thinking)
 
Using an online calculator I get the mean value as 37. Not sure of it's accuracy.

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Still does it make any difference?
 

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mathlearn said:
Using an online calculator I get the mean value as 37.

Still does it make any difference?

We didn't use the mean yet... (Thinking)

Suppose we look at just 1 tire that runs 25000 km each year.
Then we can expect that we have to replace it after 37000 / 25000 years at which time it will cost $10000 (is a tire really that expensive? (Giggle)).
It means that the annual cost of 1 tire is $10000 x 25000 / 37000.
 
mathlearn said:
Using an online calculator I get the mean value as 37. Not sure of it's accuracy.

Let's take a look at the first row.
I see we have the category 18:24 with a frequency of 1.
It has listed that Freq*X = 18.
Shouldn't that be 21, which is the mid point of the category? (Wondering)
 
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I like Serena said:
Let's take a look at the first row.
I see we have the category 18:24 with a frequency of 1.
It has listed that Freq*X = 18.
Shouldn't that be 21, which is the mid point of the category? (Wondering)

Yes , well then the calculator is wrong (Nod)

I like Serena said:
We didn't use the mean yet... (Thinking)

Suppose we look at just 1 tire that runs 25000 km each year.
Then we can expect that we have to replace it after 37000 / 25000 years at which time it will cost $10000 (is a tire really that expensive? (Giggle)).
It means that the annual cost of 1 tire is $10000 x 25000 / 37000.

Thank you very much (Yes) , The denominator of the fraction should be replaced with the mean calculated in the first post. And the tyre is expensive (Giggle)
 

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