I Estimate the number of CMB photons in 0.25-litre

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To estimate the number of Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) photons in 0.25 liters, one can start with the energy density formula for blackbody radiation, E = 4σ/C * T^4. The discussion highlights that there are approximately 411 CMB photons per cubic centimeter at present. To derive the number of photons, one can use the relationship E = hv, where v represents the frequency, and integrate over the photon distribution using Planck's Law. For those without access to specific textbooks, the photon gas Wikipedia page provides relevant formulas for calculating photon density based on temperature. Ultimately, using these principles will yield the desired estimate of CMB photons in the specified volume.
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i know that the total energy density of a blackbody radiation is

E= 4 segma/C * T^4

so how i can use this to find the number of the CMB photons in 0.25 litre?
 
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I recommend a textbook by Barbara Ryden https://www.amazon.com/dp/1107154839/?tag=pfamazon01-20. In section "2.5 Cosmic Microwave Background" she makes calculations you are asking about and comes to a conclusion that "...there are about 411 CMB photons per cubic centimeter of the universe at the present day."
 
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Frimus said:
I recommend a textbook by Barbara Ryden https://www.amazon.com/dp/1107154839/?tag=pfamazon01-20. In section "2.5 Cosmic Microwave Background" she makes calculations you are asking about and comes to a conclusion that "...there are about 411 CMB photons per cubic centimeter of the universe at the present day."

many thanks but i don't have the book
 
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Chalnoth said:
This link might help:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon_gas

If you want to drive the result yourself, use E=hv for the energy of a photon of a given frequency to do the appropriate integral.

Thank you, but i how i can get the frequency and then how i can find the number of the photons? just i am confused
 
rano jojo said:
Thank you, but i how i can get the frequency and then how i can find the number of the photons? just i am confused
I'm not sure what level the question is being asked. The photon gas wiki page has the number of photons per volume as a function of temperature directly. You could just use that formula and get the answer straight away.

If instead you're supposed to find out how to derive the number density, you'd have to derive it by integrating over the distribution of photons in a black body using Planck's Law.
 
rano jojo said:
i know that the total energy density of a blackbody radiation is

E= 4 segma/C * T^4

so how i can use this to find the number of the CMB photons in 0.25 litre?
Use E=mc^2 n another relation in which uses T of this relation~

N with plank relation E=hv, v=1/T n try[emoji4][emoji4]..
 

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