Estimating Date of Mouse Visit with Radioactive Decay

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The discussion revolves around estimating the date of a mouse visit based on the radioactive decay of carbon-14 found in a mouse dropping. The original poster presents a calculation using the half-life of carbon-14 and a given ratio of carbon isotopes.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore different methods for calculating the age based on the carbon-14 ratio, questioning the values used in the original formula and discussing the interpretation of variables in the decay equation.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exchange of calculations and methods, with some participants providing alternative approaches and questioning the assumptions made in the original poster's method. Clarifications about variable definitions and corrections to typos have been made, but no consensus has been reached on the correct calculation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of specific data regarding the initial radioactivity and the context of the problem, which may affect the calculations. The original poster acknowledges a typo in their values, indicating a need for careful consideration of the inputs used in the decay formula.

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[Hey I have also been asked this question, A mouse dropping was found in a house in Ireland and had a 14C:12C ratio that was 57% of a modern day standard. Use this value to estimate the aprox date when the mouse visited the house? The half life of 14C is 5715 year

I used the following equation.

t = half life / 0.693 * ln ( A / Ao)

therefore = 5715 / 0.693 * ln ( 100 / 570

therefore t = 4626.42 years?

What do you guys think ? Am I doing it right??
 
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I think I would have done this:
(1/2)xx= 0.57 so x ln(1/2)= ln(0.57) and x= ln(0.57)/ln(1/2)= 0.811 so the mouse dropping has gone through .811 "half lives". Since each half life is 5715 years, that is .811(5715)= 3961 years, not 4626 years.

Your "0.6943" is, of course, ln(2). What do A and Ao mean in your formula? 100 and 570 seem peculiar values. Shouldn't it be either 100/57= 1./.57 or, perhaps better, 57/100= .57?
 
Thanks for getting back to me

A is the amount of radioactivity it has when it is new and Ao refers to how much radioactivity is has now!

Normally this value would be in Curies ect,. but no other data was given!

Your right the value should be 57 not 570, that was a typo on my end, Sorry!
 
hey:

So i did my calculation again

t = 5715 / 0.693 * ln (100 / 75)

t = 8246.75 * ln (1.33)
t = 8246.75 * 0.28

t = 2309.09 years

Its still does not seem right!
I think I might go with your way HallsofIvy :)
 

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