Estimating Mass of Central Object Using S2's Orbit Motion and Kepler's 3rd Law

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The discussion revolves around estimating the mass of a central object based on the orbital motion of star S2, utilizing Kepler's 3rd law and graphical data provided during a class lecture. Participants explore the interpretation of the graph and the necessary parameters for the calculation, including the semi-major axis and potential corrections for orbital tilt.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the need to use Kepler’s 3rd law in solar units to find the mass of the central object based on S2's orbit.
  • Another participant clarifies that the "radius" in the formula refers to half the semi-major axis of the elliptical orbit, suggesting that 0.1" is a reasonable estimate for this value.
  • A third participant confirms the semi-major axis as approximately 0.1", emphasizing that this value represents the angular size of the orbit rather than a declination.
  • One participant raises the question of whether corrections for orbital tilt are necessary, suggesting that the focus not being on the major axis implies a potential tilt that could affect the mass estimation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the interpretation of the semi-major axis but express uncertainty regarding the need for tilt corrections in the mass estimation process. Multiple viewpoints on the implications of tilt remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the orbit's tilt and the definitions of the parameters involved in the calculations. The discussion does not resolve how these factors should be incorporated into the mass estimation.

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I want to understand how one can go about estimating the mass of a central object given the a graph the orbital motion of S2, or any given star for that matter.
During one of my class lectures, we were shown a graph of star S2's orbit motion (shown at the bottom of this post) and was told to try and figure out how to find the mass of the central object using Kepler’s 3rd law in solar units, as shown below:
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We were also given a hint to use the arcsec relation and read the radius of the orbit from the image, as shown below:
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From my notes, it looks like we had to use the declination value of 0.1, but I still don't understand how exactly we got to that point. Does anyone happen to know why this is and how to generally use these types of graphs to estimate the mass of a central object?

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The "radius" in the formula is actually half the semi-major axis of the ellipse (which obviously doesn't have a constant radius). Based on the diagram, 0.1'' might be a good estimate for the semi-major axis.
 
As @pasmith said, reading from the diagram, the semimajor axis is about 0.1". This is the θ in your second formula. It is not a declination, it is the angular size of the orbit.
 

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