Evaluate Limit of Cosine Over Natural Logarithm

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The problem involves evaluating the limit of the cosine function divided by the natural logarithm as n approaches infinity. It is situated within the context of calculus, particularly focusing on limits and possibly series representations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various methods for evaluating the limit, including direct evaluation and the use of series representations. Some express uncertainty about the necessity of series in this context, while others suggest simpler approaches.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different perspectives on how to approach the limit. Some have provided guidance on bounding the limit using the Squeeze theorem, while others question whether series are required for this problem.

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There is mention of the problem being part of a worksheet focused on series, which raises questions about the expectations for solving it. Participants are also considering the implications of the limit's behavior as n approaches infinity.

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Homework Statement



Evaluate \lim_{n->\infty} \frac {cos(n+1)} {ln n}

Homework Equations



cos (x+1) = 1 - \frac {(x+1)^2} {2!} + \frac {(x+1)^4} {4!} - ...

ln x = (x-1) - \frac {(x-1)^2} {2} + \frac {(x-1)^3} {3} - \frac {(x-1)^4} {4} + ...

The Attempt at a Solution



Using those formulas, and then canceling, here is my pitiful attempt:

\lim_{n->\infty} \frac {1 - \frac {1} {n!}} {(n-1)}
 
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Can't you just take the limit directly? The numerator is always between -1 and 1, while the denominator grows large without bound.
 
Mark44 said:
Can't you just take the limit directly? The numerator is always between -1 and 1, while the denominator grows large without bound.

I just didn't think I would simply be evaluating a limit in the section of Calculus that I'm in, so I assumed there was more to it involving series or something.

Any ideas?
 
Does the problem say you have to use series representations? If not, the approach I gave is much simpler.
 
Mark44 said:
Does the problem say you have to use series representations? If not, the approach I gave is much simpler.

The problem is from a worksheet that appears in the section of the book about series, but all the problem says is "Evaluate the limit." The other problems on the sheet are about series, and that's why I thought I had to do it this way.
 
Limits often show up when you're asked to determine whether a given series converges or diverges, so maybe this limit will show up in a later problem on this sheet.
 
Mark44 said:
Limits often show up when you're asked to determine whether a given series converges or diverges, so maybe this limit will show up in a later problem on this sheet.

Thanks.

So, just to make sure, since the numerator is between the interval -1<x<1 and the denominator goes off to \infty, this would mean the limit is going to 0, correct?

Is there anything I need to specifically show other than those aspects?
 
Yes, correct.
You can use what some textbooks call the "Squeeze" or "Squeeze Play" theorem.

You can bound your limit expression like so:
-1/(ln n) <= cos(n + 1)/(ln n) <= 1/(ln n)

The limit, as n approaches infinity of the expression is 0, and the limit of the expression on the right is also 0, which means that the expression in the middle has the same limit.
 
Thanks! Hopefully this is all that's required.
 
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wilcofan3 said:
I just didn't think I would simply be evaluating a limit in the section of Calculus that I'm in, so I assumed there was more to it involving series or something.

If you're going to assume anything, assume that you should work the problem in the simplest way you can get away with. By "get away with," I don't include any technique that contravenes explicit requirements in the problem.
 

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