MHB Evaluating definite integrals via substitution.

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the definite integral $$\int^1_0 36x^2(x^3 + 1)^4$$ using substitution. The user initially struggles with updating the limits after substitution and correctly incorporating the factor of 36 in their calculations. They realize that they mistakenly changed the limits from 0 to 1 to 1 to 2 without properly adjusting for the substitution. The correct approach involves maintaining the original limits and applying the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus to find the antiderivative. Ultimately, the user confirms that the correct expression for the integral should be evaluated with the original limits, leading to a clearer understanding of the process.
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Can someone make sure I'm on the right track with this problem? I'm a little confused because I thought that when you make a substitution you update the limits and get better numbers to work with when you plug them in the function in the end...Yet, it seems like I almost got worse numbers to work with.. Here is the problem, and what I have done so far.

Evaluate the following definite integral.

$$\int^1_0 36x^2(x^3 + 1)^4$$

$$u = x^3 + 1$$
$$du = 3x^2$$

But I don't have a $$3x^2$$ up top, I have a $$36x^2$$ so I divided out and got

$$\frac{du}{3} = x^2$$

now I update the limits and I get

$$0^3 + 1 = 1$$
$$1^3 + 1 = 2$$
so

$$\frac{1}{3} \int^2_1 du * u^4 = \frac{1}{3} * \frac{1}{5}u^5 = \frac{1}{15} * (2^3 + 1)^4] - [\frac{1}{15} * (1^3 + 1)^4]$$

Does this look correct? or have i messed up somewhere? I mean really i have to do $$9^4$$? (sorry if that sounds ignorant, just want to make sure)
 
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shamieh said:
$$\frac{1}{3} \int^2_1 du * u^4 = \frac{1}{3} * \frac{1}{5}u^5 = \frac{1}{15} * (2^3 + 1)^4] - [\frac{1}{15} * (1^3 + 1)^4]$$
$$36 \, \int^2_1 \frac{du}{3}\cdot \, u^4 =12 \int^2_1 \, du \cdot u^4$$
 
I would write the integral as:

$$12\int_0^1\left(x^3+1 \right)^4\,3x^2\,dx$$

to get the result obtained by ZaidAlyafey.
 
Seems I forgot to include the original 36 in the problem.

so I ended up with this:

$$[\frac{12}{5} (2^3 + 1)^5] - [\frac{12}{5} (1^3 + 1)^5]$$

$$[\frac{12}{5} * 59,049] - [\frac{12}{5} * 32]$$

$$[\frac{708,588}{5}] - [\frac{384}{5}] = \frac{708,204}{5}$$

This doesn't seem right though...Can anyone check my work?
 
As you have not changed $$x$$ to $$u$$ you can't change limts from $$\int_0^1$$ to $$\int_1^2$$:rolleyes:
 
mathworker said:
As you have not changed $$x$$ to $$u$$ you can't change limts from $$\int_0^1$$ to $$\int_1^2$$:rolleyes:

?:confused:

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Anyone else getting $$\frac{708204}{5}$$ ?
 
$$12 \int^2_1 \, du \cdot u^4 = \frac{12}{5} \left( 2^5-1\right) = \frac{31 \cdot 12}{5}=\frac{372}{5}$$
 
ZaidAlyafey said:
$$12 \int^2_1 \, du \cdot u^4 = \frac{12}{5} \left( 2^5-1\right) = \frac{31 \cdot 12}{5}=\frac{372}{5}$$
Zaid, is it because I changed the limits that I don't have to say, for example, [higher limit in the function] - [the lower limit in the function?]

In any other limit problem I would say [maximum limit plugged into antiderivative ] - [minimum plugged into antiderivative].. now you are just saying [maximum number plugged into anti derivative?]
 
Well, if you want to be in the safe side just find the anti-derivative. which is in your case

$$12\frac{(x^3+1)^5}{5}+C$$

It remains just to use the FTC.
 
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Awesome, thanks.

Instead of

$$\frac{12}{5}(2)^5 - \frac{12}{5} (1)^5$$

I was doing $$\frac{12}{5}(2^3 + 1)^4$$ - ...(Dull)
 

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