Evaluation of oscillatory integrals

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of oscillatory integrals, specifically the exponential integral of the form \(\int_{0}^{1} f(x) e^{iux} dx\) as \(u\) approaches infinity. Participants explore various methods and challenges associated with numerical evaluation, theoretical approaches, and the implications of certain mathematical theorems.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using the stationary phase method after a change of variables to evaluate the integral, though they express uncertainty about the approach.
  • Another participant recommends consulting Olver's book on asymptotics for potential insights into the problem.
  • A different viewpoint proposes that if \(f\) is continuous, the integral approaches zero as \(u\) approaches infinity, based on the intermediate value theorem.
  • It is noted that the variable \(\xi_u\) in the integral depends on \(u\), which can complicate the application of the intermediate value theorem.
  • One participant introduces the concept of "wick rotation" as a method to simplify the integral by transforming it into the real plane, while cautioning about the need for analytic continuation.
  • Another participant reflects on their previous mistakes in reasoning, emphasizing the importance of correctly applying the intermediate value theorem and the conditions under which it holds.
  • A participant expresses frustration with their earlier contributions, acknowledging errors in their application of theorems and providing a specific example that challenges their previous claims.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method for evaluating the integral, with multiple competing views and approaches presented throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations are noted, including the dependence on the continuity of \(f\) and the conditions under which the intermediate value theorem can be applied. There are also unresolved mathematical steps related to the application of various methods discussed.

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HOw can you evaluate (for big 'u') the exponential integral

[tex]\int_{0}^{1}dx f(x)e^{iux}[/tex] u-->oo

if you use Numerical methods, since exp(iux) oscillates rapidly you cannot apply any of them, also since we have inside exponential (iux) you can not apply 'Stationary phase method' unless you make the change.

[tex]\int f(g(t)exp(iug(t))[/tex]

and then apply stationary phase finding [tex]g'(t)=0[/tex] to evaluate the integral but i am not pretty sure.
 
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You should check out Olver's book Asymptotics and Special Functions. I'm pretty sure you'll find something there.
 
If f is continuous, then taking f out of the integral with the intermediate value theorem, and calculating the integral of the exponential expression, should enable you to prove that this approaches zero when u approches infinity.
 
And remember that in

[tex] \int\limits_0^1 f(x) e^{iux} dx = f(\xi_u) \int\limits_0^1 e^{iux} dx[/tex]

the [itex]\xi_u[/itex] depends on u. I think suprisingly many of my mistakes have been related to first using some intermediate value theorem, and then ignoring on what the xi depends.
 
You can try a physics trick called "wick rotation" by making a change of variables to the real plane (to get rid of the annoying 'i' in the top integral), you just have to check to see if the analytic continuation makes sense there.

But i'd first go with the method of steepest descent, it seems tailor made for this type of integral after a suitable variable change f(x) --> h(Z) and ix -- > g(Z). I don't see why its not defined in this case. So long as h(Z) and g(Z) are analytic functions in some contour of the complex plane (check this) and u --> infinity, you're set.

Of course if f(x) is some pathological beast, you're probably out of luck.
 
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My two previous posts were example of how first making a mistake, and then fixing it, can lead into unnecessarily complicated way. This is what I should have said

[tex] \big| \int\limits_0^1 f(x) e^{iux} dx\big| \leq \big(\underset{x\in [0,1]}{\textrm{sup}} |f(x)|\big) \big| \int\limits_0^1 e^{iux} dx\big| \underset{u\to\infty}{\to} 0[/tex]

If the supremum doesn't exist, then you'll have to know something else, and use it somehow.
 
Please this problem is similar to your problem. But i could'nt solve please help me
 

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Holy crap! I've been writing nonsense here in 2007.

If you want to use the intermediate value theorem

[tex] \int\limits_0^1 f(x)\phi(x)dx = f(\xi) \int\limits_0^1 \phi(x)dx[/tex]

then [itex]\phi[/itex] should be real and non-negative.

Also, if you set [itex]f(x)=e^{-i\pi x}[/itex] and [itex]u=2\pi[/itex], then

[tex] \int\limits_0^1 f(x) e^{iux}dx = \frac{2i}{\pi}[/tex]

and

[tex] \big(\underset{x\in [0,1]}{\textrm{sup}}\; |f(x)|\big) \int\limits_0^1 e^{iux}dx = 0[/tex]

So my inequality wasn't fine.
 

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