Even and odd Functions question

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The discussion revolves around the concept of expressing any function as the sum of an even function and an odd function. Participants explore the definitions and properties of even and odd functions, and how these can be applied to any given function.

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  • One participant questions whether every function can be expressed as the sum of an even and an odd function, referencing a statement made by their professor.
  • Another participant proposes a mathematical expression for any function f(x) and asks about the evenness or oddness of the components derived from it.
  • There is a discussion about the definitions of even and odd functions, with participants attempting to verify the properties of the derived functions h(x) and k(x).
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the derivation and meaning of the 1/2 factor in the expressions for h(x) and k(x).
  • A later reply introduces the idea of rewriting functions by cleverly adding or subtracting terms to demonstrate the even and odd components.
  • One participant mentions specific examples of known even and odd functions, such as sine and cosine, and their relationship to the exponential function.

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Participants generally agree on the definitions of even and odd functions and the mathematical approach to expressing functions in terms of these components. However, there remains some uncertainty about the implications of this representation and whether it conclusively shows that all functions can be expressed as such a sum.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the derivation of certain expressions and the role of the factor of 1/2, indicating potential limitations in their understanding of the mathematical steps involved.

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My prof said "every function is the sum of an even and an odd function, explain."

ive spent about 2 hours off and on thinking about this and i haven't come up with anything really.

is it because f(g(x)) is an even function if either f(x) or g(x) is even, and you can just split every function into simpler functions , one being even and the other odd? or is that just proving that every function is a product of an even and an odd?
 
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Suppose you write f(x) as
[tex]f(x) = \frac{f(x)+f(-x)}{2} + \frac{f(x)-f(-x)}{2}[/tex]
Can you say anything about the evenness or oddness of (f(x)+f(-x)) and (f(x)-f(-x))?
 
is (f(x) + f(-x)) an even function because even function, f(x)= f(-x) and
is (f(x) - f(-x)) an odd function because even functions, f(x) = -f(x)?


im not really sure
 
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First, do you agree that I can write
[tex]f(x) = \frac{f(x)+f(-x)}{2} + \frac{f(x)-f(-x)}{2}[/tex]
for any f(x)?

Second, do you know the definition of even and odd functions?
For an even function g(x): g(x) = g(-x)
For an odd function g(x): g(-x) = -g(x)

Now let h(x) = f(x)+f(-x)
and let k(x) = f(x) - f(-x)

Check to see if h or k are even or odd.
 
umm i agree with your second point but I am still not understanding the first one.
 
Ok, the point I'm trying to make is that for any f(x), I can always write

[tex]f(x) = \frac{f(x)+f(-x)}{2} + \frac{f(x)-f(-x)}{2}[/tex]

Now I'm going to define

[tex]h(x) = \frac{f(x)+f(-x)}{2} \;,\;\; k(x) = \frac{f(x)-f(-x)}{2}[/tex]

By our definitions of h and k, it is clearly true that
f(x) = h(x) + k(x)
So if you can show that h(x) is always even and k(x) is always odd, then you are done. To do this, apply the definition of even and odd functions.
i.e.
h(x) = 1/2(f(x) + f(-x))
h(-x) = 1/2(f(-x) + f(--x)) = 1/2(f(-x)+f(x)) = ?

Then do the same for k(x). If you find that h(x)=h(-x) or h(x)=-h(-x), then you can say h is even or odd.
 
Very Nice, now every thing makes sense thank you soo much but the only thing I am still wondering is where did the the 1/2 come from?

h(x) is the even function and k(x) is the odd function right?


but that doesn't really show that all functions are a sum of...
 
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A lot of times it helps to rewrite things by cleverly adding 0 or multiplying by 1.
Consider
[tex]f(x) = \frac{2}{2}f(x) = \frac{1}{2}(f(x)+f(x)) = \frac{f(x)}{2}+\frac{f(x)}{2} = \frac{f(x)}{2}+\frac{f(x)}{2} + 0 = \frac{f(x)}{2}+\frac{f(x)}{2} + \left( f(-x) - f(-x) \right) =[/tex]

[tex]\frac{f(x)}{2}+\frac{f(x)}{2} + \frac{1}{2}\left( f(-x) - f(-x) \right) =[/tex]

[tex]\frac{f(x)}{2}+\frac{f(x)}{2} + \frac{f(-x)}{2}-\frac{f(-x)}{2} = \left(\frac{f(x)}{2}+\frac{f(-x)}{2} \right) + \left(\frac{f(x)}{2} -\frac{f(-x)}{2} \right)[/tex]
 
HaHa(giddy laugh)

LeBrad you are a King, thank you very much for you help.
 
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By the way, sine and cosine are already odd and even functions (respectively) but ex is not. It's even and odd "parts"
are
[tex]\frac{e^x+ e^{-x}}{2}= cosh(x)[/tex]
and
[tex]\frac{e^x- e^{-x}}{2}= sinh(x)[/tex]
 

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