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The discussion revolves around the nature of evolution, questioning whether it is a fact or fiction, and exploring the acceptance of evolutionary theory within the scientific community. Participants address the validity of evolution as a scientific theory, the existence of dissenting opinions among biologists, and the relationship between facts and theories in science.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that evolution is a fact supported by substantial evidence, comparing its solidity to that of gravity.
  • Others acknowledge that while evolution is widely accepted, there are individuals in the scientific community who reject it, likening this to dissent in other scientific fields.
  • One participant emphasizes that science values models with predictive power over mere facts, suggesting that the theory of evolution fits this criterion despite not being universally accepted.
  • There is a contention regarding the definition and significance of facts in science, with some arguing that facts alone do not constitute knowledge without the context of theories.
  • Some participants express frustration with the framing of questions about evolution, suggesting that they lack clarity or depth.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of evolution as a fact or theory. There are multiple competing views regarding the acceptance of evolution within the scientific community and the role of facts in scientific discourse.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of scientific theories and the nuances in how they relate to observed facts. There is an acknowledgment of the limitations in how questions about evolution are framed and understood.

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Hello Guys
I'm not an expert in biology and do not know anything about
I have some questions about evolution
Is evolution fact and scientifically proven?
And is there of biologists who say that evolution is wrong?
Thank You
 
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Yes evolution is a fact. There are mountains of evidence supporting it.

There are still open questions about the subtle details of evolutionary theory, but the general premise of evolution is about as solid as gravity.

If you're interested you might want to pick up a copy of: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1416594795/?tag=pfamazon01-20.
 
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Amine Quentin said:
And is there of biologists who say that evolution is wrong?
There are fruitcakes in all walks of life and there is no reason to think that biology is free from it, so very likely there are a handful of nut cases who think evolution is wrong despite the overwhelming evidence that it is correct.
 
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Choppy said:
Yes evolution is a fact. There are mountains of evidence supporting it.

There are still open questions about the subtle details of evolutionary theory, but the general premise of evolution is about as solid as gravity.

If you're interested you might want to pick up a copy of: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1416594795/?tag=pfamazon01-20.
Thank you so much :smile:
 
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phinds said:
There are fruitcakes in all walks of life and there is no reason to think that biology is free from it, so very likely there are a handful of nut cases who think evolution is wrong despite the overwhelming evidence that it is correct.
Thank you for this info sir :)
 
In science we don't care for facts. Facts are a dime in a dozen and nothing special.

What is cared about are models that describe reality and have predictive power. The theory of evolution has exactly that, though it cannot predict and explain everything.

There's probably biologists out there that don't value the theory of evolution at all, but that by itself means nothing.

I don't think your question was well worded. Does this really satisfy your curiousity? So people told you that yes, the expects consider it 'fact'.
If I had problems with the way I understand how theory of evolution explains certain things, I wouldn't be happy until I had resolved that issue.
 
Almeisan said:
In science we don't care for facts...
Uh, who is this "we" you speak of? Theories/models are based on facts so your statement seems self-contradictory.
 
Amine Quentin said:
Is evolution fact and scientifically proven?
And is there of biologists who say that evolution is wrong?
Regarding your latter question, there are professional physicists who completely reject relativity theory, professional astronomers who completely reject the concept of an expanding universe, professional geologists who completely reject plate tectonics. And of course there are professional biologists who completely reject evolution. Those one out a thousand naysayers are all wrong.

Regarding your first question, you ask too much. There is no such thing as a scientific theory that has been proven to be true. Science doesn't work that way. A good scientific theory is consistent with observed facts relevant to the theory, is able to make testable predictions, and is consistent with the results of those tests. None of that proves the theory to be true.

That said, the theory of evolution does all of that. It is one of the best scientific theories humankind has ever developed.
 
phinds said:
Uh, who is this "we" you speak of? Theories/models are based on facts so your statement seems self-contradictory.

Theories are based on many facts.

Not all facts are good facts. A fact is just one datapoint. In itself it means nothing. Fact if the lowest level of knowledge in science. The are like opinions; everyone has one and they are all over the place.

You use facts to support theories, not theories to support facts. This shows which one trumps the other.

Creation is a fact. Life gets created and designed every day. Means nothing in itself.
 
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Almeisan said:
You use facts to support theories, not theories to support facts. This shows which one trumps the other.
Which is WAY different than what you said previously, that I was responding to ("In science we don't care for facts")
 
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Don't see how you can say that.
 
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This thread has already been answered and is now going downhill.
 

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