Evolving with skin stronger than bone

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The discussion centers on the theoretical possibility of an organism evolving skin stronger than bone, particularly in humanoids. Participants reference the exoskeletons of insects as a parallel, noting that while strong skin could theoretically exist, it may not be practical due to mobility constraints. The conversation highlights that evolution would not favor traits that cause self-injury, emphasizing the importance of environmental requirements in evolutionary adaptations. The suggestion to consult Campbell's "Biology" is made for further exploration of evolutionary biology concepts.

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Is it possible for an organism to evolve with skin stronger than bone? theoretically? As in, a humanoid only instead of strong bones, it has strong skin? Would that make sense biologically?

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I don't know about a humanoid, but this is part of the survival strategy of many insects. It's called an exoskeleton.
 
Technically though is not the exoskeleton a skeleton? Just its on the outside rather than inside?
 
Yes, and it serves as their skin. This is what you were, asking no? Whether an organism can evolve with a strong skin to support its form rather than an internal skeleton?
 
Aye I suppose, when I say skin i was thinking of like human skin, I was wondering if something would have human skin with similar properties to skin, e.g. a rubbery/elastic healing substance that has higher tensile strength/pressure resistance than bone.

Like would it be possible for a persons endoskeleton to evolve softer than their skin, which would be comparatively harder to bone? Would said entity injure itself upon moving because would its skin, if stronger than bone and muslce rip those tendons and what not on movement?

Sorry for weird question, just something I was thinking of.
 
I'm not sure it is possible to have any material that is softer than skin and harder than bone. This is like saying it is more dense than steel but less dense than water.
 
So if humans constantly physically evolved and a byproduct of that was their skin was tougher, eventually would bones have to grow to support the toughness of the skin?
 
I don't know. It depends on the requirements of their environments. I don't see evolving tougher skin as practical, as it would limit mobility.

Pick up a copy of Campbell's "Biology" if you would like to explore the topic more seriously.
 
Thanks Crador, may well do that and thank you again for your aid.
 
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Aye I suppose, when I say skin i was thinking of like human skin, I was wondering if something would have human skin with similar properties to skin, e.g. a rubbery/elastic healing substance that has higher tensile strength/pressure resistance than bone.

Like would it be possible for a persons endoskeleton to evolve softer than their skin, which would be comparatively harder to bone?

Well, just look at turtles, armadillos, and other similar animals. It certainly appears that this could happen given the right circumstances. I'm not sure the skin would retain all the properties you're asking about, as the it would need to resist deformation enough to support the person's wait. It's hard to make good load bearing structures out of material that has high elasticity.

Would said entity injure itself upon moving because would its skin, if stronger than bone and muslce rip those tendons and what not on movement?

Evolution isn't going to evolve a species who injure themselves just by moving, so no, that's not going to happen. (At least, not by natural selection)
 

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