Exact Solution for Sin(1) in Radians | Using Integers to Express Real Numbers

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The discussion centers on the exact solution for sin(1) in radians and the expression of real numbers using integers. It confirms that sin(1) can be represented as an infinite series: 1 - 1/3! + 1/5! - 1/7! + 1/9!. Additionally, it clarifies that while algebraic numbers can be expressed with finite series of fractions or roots, transcendental numbers like 'pi' and 'e' cannot be fully expressed using integers. The conclusion emphasizes that not all real numbers can be expressed solely with integers through finite operations.

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1. Is there an exact solution for sin(1)?
1 is in radians.

I thought about using linear approximation, like for point 0. But that wouldn't give the exact value.


2. Can we express any real number using some integers?
Like sqrt(2)+sqrt(3)/4 = some real number.
eg. how would express this real number in integers:
1.215987456321?

Thanks a lot. :smile:
 
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1.You could express sin(1) as the sum of the series 1 - 1/3! + 1/5! - 1/7! + 1/9!...

2. What do you mean by "using some integers"?
 
nicktacik said:
1.You could express sin(1) as the sum of the series 1 - 1/3! + 1/5! - 1/7! + 1/9!...

2. What do you mean by "using some integers"?

Oh yes, I was awared of the series, but I didn't want to use them. Couldn't we express it as like sqrt(2)+1/6!?

2. some integers like 2.280238966 =sqrt(2)+sqrt(3)/2 [so, 2,3 are integers i was talking about]
 
Only trig functions of fractions of pi give algerbraic answers.

Algerbraic numbers are those that can be written with a (finite) series of fractions or roots. Transcendental numbers such as 'pi' and 'e' cannot be written down completely.
A rational number can be written as a fraction, so any finite decimal number can always be written as a fraction.
eg. 2.280238966 = 2280238966/10000000000
 
Essentially, you seem to be asking if any number can be expressed using only integers with a finite number of multiplication, addition, and power functions. The answer is no.
 
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nicktacik said:
Essentially, you seem to be asking if any number can be expressed only using only integers with a finite number of multiplication, addition, and power functions. The answer is no.

yes, that's what I was trying to ask.

Thanks a lot!
 

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