Exam in 2 days Change of basis BRA and KET

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The discussion revolves around changing the basis in quantum mechanics, specifically focusing on rewriting state vectors in different bases. The original poster is concerned about their understanding of eigenvalues and the process of changing basis for an upcoming exam.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use the identity operator to change basis and expresses confusion about their method. Other participants suggest treating the equations as simultaneous equations and question the correctness of the new basis states.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different methods for changing basis and questioning the assumptions made by the original poster. Some guidance has been offered regarding alternative approaches, but there is no explicit consensus on the best method to use.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty about the orthonormality of the new basis states provided in the examples, and participants are encouraged to verify the correctness of their assumptions regarding the basis states.

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ive been revising all holidays, unfortunately I've just realized I've been finding eigenvalues using the ensemble when i may have to change basis for the exam. looks at homework questions, workshop questions... nothing!

anyway an example problem:

rewrite

|PSI> = a|0> + b|1>

in the basis

|phi1> = a|0> + b|1>
|phi2> = b*|0> + a*|1>

my attempt

im assuming that to change basis you need to use the identity operator with the new basis, in this case

I = |phi1><phi1| + |phi2><phi2|

so I|PSI> = |PSI>

which looks a bit strange to me.

ANOTHER example


write:

|PSI> = 1/SQRT2 (|0> + |1>)

in the basis:

|3> = SQRT(1/3) |0> + SQRT(2/3) |1>
|4> = SQRT(2/3) |0> + SQRT(1/3) |1>

my attempt

I = |3><3| + |4><4|

I|PSI> = |PSI>



Please could someone confirm my method is correct before i make an *** of it in the exam. any help once again appreciated!
 
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I have no idea what you think you're doing in your attempted solution. And I have no idea what you meant by "using the ensemble". But maybe the following will help.
rwooduk said:
|PSI> = a|0> + b|1>

in the basis

|phi1> = a|0> + b|1>
|phi2> = b*|0> + a*|1>
Treat the last 2 equation as a pair of simultaneous equations in the unknowns |0> and |1>. I.e., express |0> in terms of |phi1> and |phi2>. Similarly for |1>. Then... (I'll leave the final step to you).
 
strangerep said:
I have no idea what you think you're doing in your attempted solution. And I have no idea what you meant by "using the ensemble". But maybe the following will help.

Treat the last 2 equation as a pair of simultaneous equations in the unknowns |0> and |1>. I.e., express |0> in terms of |phi1> and |phi2>. Similarly for |1>. Then... (I'll leave the final step to you).

I'm not sure that way would work correctly. I am using the identity operator to change basis, which I think is the correct way. (could be wrong lol)

but thanks anyway
 
rwooduk said:
I'm not sure that way would work correctly.
Well, I suggested a "low-brow" method of solution, since you seemed to having trouble with the "higher-brow" way of using a resolution of identity. So maybe you should solve the problems both ways to check that they eventually give the same answer.

HOWEVER, are you sure the new bases in both examples are as per the original question (or did you just make them up). Hint: check whether the new basis states are orthonormal. Are you sure you don't have a wrong sign somewhere?
 

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