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Homework Help: Exam in 2 days! Change of basis BRA and KET

  1. Jan 12, 2014 #1
    ive been revising all holidays, unfortunately ive just realised ive been finding eigenvalues using the ensemble when i may have to change basis for the exam. looks at homework questions, workshop questions... nothing!!

    anyway an example problem:


    |PSI> = a|0> + b|1>

    in the basis

    |phi1> = a|0> + b|1>
    |phi2> = b*|0> + a*|1>

    my attempt

    im assuming that to change basis you need to use the identity operator with the new basis, in this case

    I = |phi1><phi1| + |phi2><phi2|

    so I|PSI> = |PSI>

    which looks a bit strange to me.

    ANOTHER example


    |PSI> = 1/SQRT2 (|0> + |1>)

    in the basis:

    |3> = SQRT(1/3) |0> + SQRT(2/3) |1>
    |4> = SQRT(2/3) |0> + SQRT(1/3) |1>

    my attempt

    I = |3><3| + |4><4|

    I|PSI> = |PSI>

    Please could someone confirm my method is correct before i make an *** of it in the exam. any help once again appreciated!
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  3. Jan 12, 2014 #2


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    I have no idea what you think you're doing in your attempted solution. And I have no idea what you meant by "using the ensemble". But maybe the following will help.
    Treat the last 2 equation as a pair of simultaneous equations in the unknowns |0> and |1>. I.e., express |0> in terms of |phi1> and |phi2>. Similarly for |1>. Then... (I'll leave the final step to you).
  4. Jan 13, 2014 #3
    I'm not sure that way would work correctly. Im using the identity operator to change basis, which I think is the correct way. (could be wrong lol)

    but thanks anyway
  5. Jan 14, 2014 #4


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    Well, I suggested a "low-brow" method of solution, since you seemed to having trouble with the "higher-brow" way of using a resolution of identity. So maybe you should solve the problems both ways to check that they eventually give the same answer.

    HOWEVER, are you sure the new bases in both examples are as per the original question (or did you just make them up). Hint: check whether the new basis states are orthonormal. Are you sure you don't have a wrong sign somewhere?
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