Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around finding an example of a function \( f: X \times Y \to \mathbb{R} \) where the integral of the function converges for all \( x \in X \), the partial derivative with respect to \( x \) exists for all \( (x,y) \in X \times Y \), but the integral of the partial derivative diverges for at least some \( x \in X \). The scope includes mathematical reasoning and exploration of integrability conditions.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Mathematical reasoning
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant requests an example of a function that meets specific integrability criteria.
- Another participant suggests working backwards by choosing the partial derivative first, rather than guessing the function.
- A participant proposes that if the partial derivative is chosen such that it cannot be integrated with respect to \( y \), then the function \( f \) will also not be integrable with respect to \( y \).
- One participant claims to have several infinite families of solutions and hints at trying the intervals \( X, Y = [1, \infty) \).
- A participant expresses willingness to see example functions and indicates a desire to critique them.
- One example provided is \( f(x,y) = \frac{1}{y^2} x^{-y} \), which converges for all \( x \) but has a diverging integral of the partial derivative for \( x = 1 \).
- Another example presented is \( f(x,y) = \frac{\sin{xy}}{y^2 + a^2} \), which fails to converge for the integral of the partial derivative when \( x = 0 \).
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants present multiple examples and approaches, indicating that there is no consensus on a single solution. The discussion remains open with various proposed functions and methods.
Contextual Notes
Some participants express uncertainty about the difficulty of finding such functions and the implications of their choices for \( \partial_x f \). The discussion involves exploring different families of functions and their properties without resolving the overall challenge.