Excitation to higher energy levels

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the excitation and de-excitation processes of electrons in atomic shells, specifically focusing on transitions between the K and L shells and the implications of selection rules on these transitions. The scope includes theoretical aspects of quantum mechanics and atomic structure.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that when an electron is excited from the K shell to the L shell, it ends up in the 2p subshell and subsequently de-excites to the 2s and 1s levels.
  • Another participant indicates that the electron can de-excite from 2p to 2s or directly to 1s, implying multiple possible pathways for de-excitation.
  • A participant questions the validity of these transitions by referencing selection rules, suggesting that certain transitions may not be allowed.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on which selection rules are being referenced in the discussion.
  • A later reply cites a source stating that the 2s level cannot decay directly to 1s due to parity selection rules, and instead decays via two-photon emission, which contributes to a continuum in the spectrum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the allowed transitions between energy levels, with some asserting that direct transitions are possible while others argue that selection rules prohibit certain transitions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these rules on the de-excitation processes.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the selection rules and the specific conditions under which transitions occur. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical details or the implications of the cited sources.

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If an electron gets excited from K to L shell, it will actually finish in the 2p subshell and then deexcite to 2s and 1s at the end, right?
 
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It 'can' de-excite from 2p-2s or it 'can' directly de-excite to 1s. Same applies to excitation.
 
But that doesn't seem to follow the selection rules.
 
Which rules are you talking about?
 
Anyone?
 
Not sure what the question is, if there is one. :smile:

Are you maybe asking, "If an atom decays from 2p to 2s, then how does the 2s subsequently decay to 1s, since this violates the rule for allowed transitions?"

From http://www.tapir.caltech.edu/~chirata/ay102/Atomic.pdf:

One notable feature of the above is that the 2s level of hydrogen cannot decay: the only lower energy level is 1s, and the parity selection rule forbids this. The 2s level instead decays by two-­photon decay: H(2s) → H(1s) + γ + γ. The sum of the energies of the two emitted photons is E2s−E1s = 10.2 eV. The photons have a continuous spectrum since there is no other constraint on their energies. This is a major contributor to the UV/optical continuum from many nebulae.
 
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Great. Thanks.
 

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