Expected value of 3 cards dealt

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The theoretical expected value of three cards dealt from a standard deck can be calculated using the formula E(X_1 + X_2 + X_3) = E(X_1) + E(X_2) + E(X_3), resulting in 3 times the expected value of one card. The expected value of one card is determined to be 85/13, assuming the Ace is valued at 1 point and face cards (Jack, Queen, King) are valued at 10 points each. The total number of ways to choose three cards is 52 * 51 * 50, with specific breakdowns for combinations of cards, including 216 ways to draw 3 of the same non-10 and 3360 ways to draw 3 tens. The discussion also touches on the expected value of four cards, emphasizing the efficiency of using the linearity of expectation.

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If each card on a regular deck has points that corresponds to their number (like 2 of hearts is 2 points, 7 of clubs is 7 points), the Jack, Queen, King each being 10 points...what's the expected value of your opponent's hand if you deal them 3 cards?

I know the empirical expected value...but I'd like to know -how- to get the theoretical expected value, please : )

Help please D: I've been stewing over this question for days now. The only way I can think of doing this is by doing a tree diagram to get each probability but that'll have like 1000 end branches -headdesk-
 
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What's an ace worth? 1, 10, 11, 13?

The expected value wouldn't be too far off from three times the expected value of one card.
 
I'll assume the ace is valued at something other than 10.

So there are 52 * 51 * 50 ways to choose three cards from a deck. Of those, the breakdown is

216 ways to draw 3 of the same non-10
10368 ways to draw 2 of the same and one different, none 10
32256 ways to draw 3 different non-10s
5184 ways to draw a 10 and 2 of the same non-10s
55296 ways to draw a 10 and 2 different non-10s
25920 ways to draw 2 10s and a non-10
3360 ways to draw 3 10s

So calculate the average value for each, multiply, add, and divide.
 
Ah, yes, Ace is worth 1 points : )

Uhm, sorry, would you happen to know the breakdown for 4 cards? I misread the question and apparently it's the expected value of 4 cards dealt. I tried doing the breakdown myself but I always seem a few hundred thousand short of the total ways.

Thank you very much for all the help!
 
Note that E(X+Y)=E(X)+E(Y) holds regardless of the dependence between X and Y - so you won't need to work out all 13^4 combinations.
 
To expand on bpet's remark, the expected value of one card is 85/13, assuming an ace is 1 and Jack, Queen, King are 10 each. Let's say the value of the ith card is X_i. Then the expected value of 3 cards is

E(X_1 + X_2 + X_3) = E(X_1) + E(X_2) + E(X_3) = 3 \times 85/13.

That's all it takes.
 

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