Expelled from university. What do?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges faced by a participant who has been expelled from university twice and is contemplating whether to pursue further education or to continue working without a degree. The conversation touches on themes of personal identity, societal expectations, and the emotional turmoil associated with these decisions.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to abandon higher education in favor of working as a freelance programmer and waiter, citing financial independence and a passion for computers.
  • Another participant suggests that the expulsion due to hacking and trespassing indicates deeper issues with maturity and responsibility, recommending counseling or mentorship.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of pursuing one's passion, suggesting that if computers are the participant's interest, they should follow that path.
  • Concerns are raised about the participant's mental health, with references to episodes of neurosis and feelings of inadequacy.
  • There is a discussion about the necessity of adapting to societal norms if the participant wishes to work as a scientist, with differing views on whether this is essential for success.
  • One participant reflects on their own feelings of remoteness and the impact of personal history on their current situation, indicating a complex interplay between personal and societal factors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions, with some advocating for the pursuit of further education while others support the idea of working independently. There is no clear consensus on the best path forward for the original poster, and multiple competing views remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the participant's emotional struggles and the complexities of their situation, including unresolved personal issues and the impact of past actions on their current choices. The varying perspectives on education and career paths reflect differing values and assumptions about success and fulfillment.

  • #31
Fizex said:
The state of mind affects the quality of a scientist.


Doesn't make them a good scientist. If everyone doesn't want to hear it from me, then maybe from a Nobel physicist?

http://www.phys.uu.nl/~thooft/theoristbad.html


Maybe I should've been more precise with my statement. These guys are taking words to literally. I don't have to be so flawless elsewhere on the forums and people usually understand what is meant.

I'm sure that there exist people that are great at what they do and yet are assholes in the the purest sense and that includes scientists.
 
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  • #32
It's rather sad that PF feeds an obvious troll like this... I understand you guys aren't the most internet-savvy people out there, but seriously guys, you should know better. The OP is a fake.
 
  • #33
Leptos said:
It's rather sad that PF feeds an obvious troll like this... I understand you guys aren't the most internet-savvy people out there, but seriously guys, you should know better. The OP is a fake.

You'd be surprised at the number of people there are with some crazy ideas about their life
 
  • #34
Pengwuino said:
You'd be surprised at the number of people there are with some crazy ideas about their life

Pretty much everyone has their own crazy ideas..
 
  • #35
Leptos, we would rather try to do some good than worry about being scammed.
 

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