Experimental evidence on cosmological redshift

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SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the cosmological redshift phenomenon, which is attributed to the expansion of space rather than the 'tired light' hypothesis. Key arguments include the Tolman Surface Brightness Test, which demonstrates that if redshift were due to energy loss, surface brightness would decrease in proportion to (z+1)-1, while expansion leads to a decrease proportional to (z+1)-4. Participants clarify that the expansion of space can occur without dark energy, although dark energy influences the rate of expansion. The consensus is that redshift is a result of the stretching of spacetime, not merely a Doppler effect from moving objects.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of cosmological models, specifically the ΛCDM model.
  • Familiarity with the concept of redshift and its implications in astrophysics.
  • Knowledge of the Tolman Surface Brightness Test and its significance in cosmology.
  • Basic grasp of the Friedmann equations and their role in describing universe expansion.
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the implications of the Tolman Surface Brightness Test in cosmological observations.
  • Study the Friedmann equations to understand the dynamics of universe expansion.
  • Explore the differences between cosmological redshift and Doppler shift in various cosmological models.
  • Investigate the role of dark energy in the expansion of the universe and its effects on cosmic structures.
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Astronomers, astrophysicists, and cosmologists interested in the mechanisms behind redshift and the expansion of the universe, as well as students and researchers studying cosmological models and their implications.

  • #31
JimJCW said:
The following articles
Are not valid references.
 
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  • #32
JimJCW said:
Big Bang is the prevailing model of the universe. What you are saying is believed by most people. However, the idea that the observable universe expanded from a tiny point of Planck length (1.6×10-35 m) to the present radius of 4.4×1026 m (46.5 Gly) is so overwhelming that some people may have traces of uncertainties back in their minds.
A lot of scientific discoveries are overwhelming. That a single fertilised egg can develop into a fully grown human being. The evolution of life including intelligent, conscious humans.

That the solar system evolved from a cloud of dust. Even that there are trillions of galaxies each with hundreds of billions of stars.

It's not a good argument against a theory simply to say that the theory is mind boggling.
 
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  • #33
JimJCW said:
Big Bang is the prevailing model of the universe. What you are saying is believed by most people. However, the idea that the observable universe expanded from a tiny point of Planck length (1.6×10-35 m) to the present radius of 4.4×1026 m (46.5 Gly) is so overwhelming that some people may have traces of uncertainties back in their minds.

The following articles related to expansion of space [have been deleted by the moderators since they are not valid references.]

Please see Wendy Freedman’s 2021 paper, Measurements of the Hubble Constant: Tensions in Perspective, in The Astrophysical Journal.
 
  • #34
Why are you arguing with yourself?
 
  • #35
Vanadium 50 said:
Why are you arguing with yourself?

If I seem to be not committed, it’s because I wish to find the truth.
 

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