Collision question using conservation of kinetic energy

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The problem involves a collision between two equal masses, where one is moving and the other is at rest. The scenario explores the implications of conservation of kinetic energy and momentum in the context of a perfectly inelastic collision.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conditions under which kinetic energy is conserved and question the implications of a perfectly inelastic collision. There is confusion regarding the relationship between the conservation of kinetic energy and the proposed outcome of the collision.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the definitions and implications of kinetic energy conservation and inelastic collisions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of momentum equations, but there is no consensus on the impossibility of the scenario presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the definitions of elastic and inelastic collisions, as well as the specific requirements for conservation of kinetic energy in this context. There is a noted misunderstanding of the question's intent regarding proving impossibility versus explaining it.

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Homework Statement



A 2.00 kg mas (A) moving at 2.00 m/s strikes another 2.00 kg mass(B) which is at rest. Both are confined to a a straight line to move along.

An impossible outcome for this collision is that A sticks to B and they both move off together at 1.414 m/s. First show that this collision would satify conservation of kinetic energy and then explainwhy this is impossible.

Homework Equations


.5(mA)(vAi)2+.5(mb)(vbi)2=.5(mA)(vAf)2+.5(mb)(vbf)2


The Attempt at a Solution


I get that this is a perfectly ineleastic collision but why is it impossible and what does the question mean by "show that this satifies the consevation of kinetic energy" Does the above question even relate to the equation for the consevation of kinetic energy?

ANy help is appreciated thanks!
 
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It's asking you to show that if they both stick together and move off at 1.414ms-1 then kinetic energy is conserved.
 
okay what does it mean if kinetc energy is conserved?
 
Satisfying conservation of kinetic energy means that the total kinetic energy before the collision is more than or equal the total kinetic energy after the collision since no energy can be created and energy could be lost to other forms, such as sounds, heat etc.

I get that this is a perfectly ineleastic collision
What makes you assume this?
 
Because if the colliding objects stick together after the collision then the collision is perfectly inelastic
 
so why is this situation impossible?
 
Oh sorry misread the question. Yes this impossible scenario is inelastic.

Simply use the conservation of momentum equation to show this is impossible ~

M_aU_a+M_bU_b=M_aV_a+M_bV_b where m=mass, u=intial velocity, v=final velocity.
 
Mentallic said:
Oh sorry misread the question. Yes this impossible scenario is inelastic.

Simply use the conservation of momentum equation to show this is impossible ~

M_aU_a+M_bU_b=M_aV_a+M_bV_b where m=mass, u=intial velocity, v=final velocity.

The question is not asking to prove that it's impossible, it's asking to explain why it's impossible.

Is there such thing as a perfectly elastic collision? Why/why not?
 

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