Explaining Connected Component: Real Numbers, Rationals, & More

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The discussion revolves around the concept of connected components in topology, specifically focusing on real numbers, rational numbers, and complex numbers. Participants explore definitions, properties, and examples of connectedness in various topological spaces.

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  • One participant seeks clarification on the definition of connected components and provides an example involving the set X = {(x, y) ∈ R2 ; x not equal to y}.
  • Another participant explains that the connected components of the rationals (Q) are singletons due to its total disconnectedness, while the reals (R) are connected as a whole.
  • There is a discussion about the closure of subsets in R2 and the conditions under which a set is considered disconnected.
  • A participant inquires about finding connected components in the complex space X = {(z, w) ∈ C2 ; z not equal to w} and questions the difficulty in separating this set.
  • Another participant argues that the set X in the complex plane is path connected, providing reasoning based on the existence of paths between points in the space.

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Participants generally agree on the definitions and properties of connected components, but there are differing views on the specific examples and the methods to demonstrate connectedness in certain cases. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the separation of certain sets in the complex plane.

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Participants express uncertainty about the conditions under which certain sets are connected or disconnected, particularly in higher dimensions and different topological contexts.

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I'm not quite clear about this notion. Could anyone explain a little bit for me?
Here is the definition:
Let a be an arbitrary point in X . Then there exists a largest connected subset of X
containing a, i.e. a set Ca such that:
• a ∈ Ca and Ca is connected;
• for any connected subset S of X containing a, S ⊆ Ca .
We call such a set Ca the connected component of X containing a, or simply a connected
component of X .
I can see that the connected components of R, Q etc are the singletons.
What about X = {(x, y) ∈ R2 ; x not equal to y} with the topology induced from R2 ?
Btw, if the interior of a subset A of R is the empty set, what are the different possibilities? Obviously, A could be Q, C, R etc.
Your input is greatly appreciated!
 
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Ca is the largest/maximal connected subset containing a, meaning that if S contains a, and

S contains C, then S is not connected.

"I can see that the connected components of R, Q etc are the singletons. "

Q, as a subset of R, is totally disconnected, so that the singletons q_n are the components. Any larger (than {q_n}, for any n ) subset containing q_n is disconnected.

(R , Std. Metric Topology)is connected, so the maximal connected subset containing
R is R itself.

"What about X = {(x, y) ∈ R2 ; x not equal to y} with the topology induced from R2 ?."

Then check to see if X is disconnected: what is the closure of X1={(x,y) in R^2 : x>y}

union X2={(x,y) in R^2: x<y}?. X is disconnected if ClX1/\X2 is empty,

and so is X1/\ClX2 (/\ is intersection, Cl is closure).

In the use I know, components are closed, since , if a subset A is connected, so is its
closure.


"Btw, if the interior of a subset A of R is the empty set, what are the different possibilities? Obviously, A could be Q, C, R etc."

R does not have empty interior. The Baire Category theorem shows this.

Q has empty interior --the irrationals are dense in the reals.

The Cantor set has empty interior
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Thank you very much for your reply. I have a much clearer picture in my mind.
Just one more question, to find the connected component for X = {(z, w) ∈ C2 ; z not equal to w} with the topology induced from C2, we still need to check to see if X is disconnected right? But it's hard to find two open and disjoint sets whose union is X. Since z not equal to w only means that the real parts and the complex parts are not equal respectively. How do we treat it then? Again, I really appreciate all your input here.
 
I can't see, right away, a straightforward way to show that X=\{(z,w)\in\mathbb{C}^2\mid z\ne w\} can't be separated. However, it's not hard to see that it's path connected, implying that it's connected.

First notice that for any u,v,w in C, there's a path from u to v that avoids w (if this is not obvious, draw a picture). Use that to see that there's a path from (u,v) to (z,w) in X, for any choice of (u,v) and (z,w):

First, there's a path from (u,v) to (z,v) lying entirely in C x v which avoids (v,v), by the lemma above. Then, there's a path from (z,v) to (z,w) lying entirely in z x C which avoids (z,z) by the same reasoning. Concatenate the two and you've shown X is path connected, therefore connected.
 

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