Explaining the Noisier Winter Wind Phenomenon

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The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of increased noise from winter winds compared to summer winds, exploring potential explanations related to air density, environmental factors, and wind characteristics. Participants consider various aspects including physical properties of air, environmental changes, and subjective experiences of noise levels.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that sound may travel more easily through denser winter air compared to warmer summer air, suggesting this as a possible explanation for the increased noise.
  • Another participant proposes that additional obstructions, such as ice build-ups and snowbanks, could contribute to the noise, while a different view suggests that the absence of leaves in winter might reduce obstruction.
  • One participant mentions the influence of wind direction on perceived noise levels, indicating that winter winds may come from different directions than summer winds, affecting how sound is experienced.
  • A participant introduces the concept of viscosity as a factor that might influence the sound characteristics of winter winds.
  • Another participant reflects on the relationship between air density and momentum, suggesting that denser winter air could exert more force at the same wind speed, potentially contributing to louder sounds.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various hypotheses regarding the causes of increased noise from winter winds, with no consensus reached on a single explanation. Multiple competing views remain regarding the factors influencing sound perception in different seasons.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on assumptions about environmental conditions and subjective experiences of sound, which may vary widely among individuals and locations.

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When a 20 mph summer wind blows past my window I don't hear anything. When a 20 mph cold winter wind blows past my window I hear whistles and howls and moans. Is there an easy explanation for this?
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air is denser in winter and ( this will get me in trouble) sound travels more easily thru dense air vs hot disfussed air..my opinion
 
That was my first thought too. I'm wondering if there might also be more obstruction to the airflow, what with ice build-ups, snowbanks, and the like.
 
Rather than more obstructions in winter I suspect it is the other way around: No leaves.
 
That could have something to do with it, but I've noticed the effect in places where we didn't have trees.
 
Think viscosity.
 
I'm on the 6th floor, no trees, no snowbanks, no ice build-up, no utility wires to vibrate. But it sure is noisy.
 
Your apparent noise levels are more likely due to different wind directions, depending on where you live and orientation of the window. Along east coast, USA, summer winds are usually from the southern quadrants, winter from the northern. So I hear louder winter wind noise from my northerly facing bedroom window...

I just skimmed Wikipedia on relative humidity:

"Water vapor is a lighter gas than air at the same temperature, so humid air will tend to rise by natural convection. This is a mechanism behind thunderstorms and other weather phenomena.."

If that's accurate, I'm thinking that winter wind IS more dense so at 20 mph has more momentum, hence more force than less dense summer air at the same wind speed...hence it has more force when it does blow against any surface.
 
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