Exploring the Relationship between Density and Muon in Bohr's Model

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The discussion explores the relationship between density and the substitution of electrons with muons in the context of Bohr's model of the atom. It examines theoretical implications of this substitution on atomic structure and density, focusing on the effects of mass on orbital size and energy levels.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes a relation ρ~mp~me³ and questions the implications of replacing electrons with muons, suggesting a potential increase in density by a factor of 200³.
  • Another participant agrees, explaining that the radius of the electron orbital is inversely proportional to the mass of the electron, leading to smaller atomic sizes and increased density with a heavier muon.
  • A subsequent reply highlights the importance of quantization of angular momentum in understanding the relationship between mass and orbital size.
  • Another participant adds that L=0 orbitals would also shrink by the same factor, indicating that the effects are not limited to angular momentum considerations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the theoretical implications of substituting muons for electrons in terms of density and orbital size, but the discussion remains exploratory without a consensus on the practical behavior of muons in atomic structures.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the practical applicability of Bohr's model to muons or the exact nature of their behavior in atoms, leaving open questions about the assumptions underlying the model and the relationship between mass and density.

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In my (very brief) lecturer's notes there's written that ρ~mp~me3 (*). So.. when (hypothetically) replacing every electron with a muon (around 200me), could the density increase 2003 times? Where comes that (*) relation (in Bohr's model)?

Just in case: it's not a homework question
 
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Basically, yes. The radius of the electron orbital is inversely proportional with electron's mass. So if you replace it with a 200x heavier muon, then all of the atoms will get 200x smaller, increasing density by factor of 200³. Actually, a bit more, even, because of the added mass of the muon.

In Bohr's atom, this is very easy to understand. The orbit is integer number of wavelengths, which fixes possible values of momentum, while the heavier particle in a particular orbit will have higher momentum. So the ground state, the lowest possible momentum and energy, is attained at much lower orbit for a heavier particle.

Of course, that's not actually how the electron or muon behaves in an atom, but this is how Bohr derived the radius and relationship, which just happened to be correct. The principle is similar, however. Muon will have higher momentum in an atom, and therefore, its orbitals will be smaller, giving you higher density as a result.
 
Thanks! I completely missed the quantization of angular momentum. When r~m-1 then E~m*r-2~m3.
 
Just keep in mind that it's not just angular momentum. L=0 orbitals shrink by the same factor.
 

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