Understanding Exponentials and Logarithms: Solving Equations with ln and abs

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The discussion focuses on solving the equation e^(ln(abs(y-1))) = e^(x+c) and simplifying it to y-1 = Ce^x. Participants clarify that the absolute value introduces two cases, leading to two distinct solutions for y-1, represented as K e^x, where K can be either e^C or -e^C. Additionally, the importance of using different constants for each case is emphasized to avoid confusion in the solution process.

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I was tasked to answer/show why e^(ln(abs(y-1))=e^(x+c) simplifies to y-1=Ce^x.
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I started with the top equation. I first said since they were both raised to e it would then change to ln(abs(y-1))=x+c. I then thought because of the abs It could be broke into 2 equations. ln(y-1)=x+c and ln(y-1)=-(x+c). I then got confused because I had 2 equations to work with instead of one.
 
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Homework Statement:: I was tasked to answer/show why e^(ln(abs(y-1))=e^(x+c) simplifies to y-1=Ce^x.
Relevant Equations:: none

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I started with the top equation. I first said since they were both raised to e it would then change to ln(abs(y-1))=x+c. I then thought because of the abs It could be broke into 2 equations. ln(y-1)=x+c and ln(y-1)=-(x+c). I then got confused because I had 2 equations to work with instead of one.
Two points: first, the constant C in the first equation is not the same as the constant C in the second equation, so it would be better to not use the same symbol, of better write the second C in terms of the first C. You probably realize this but I thought I would mention it.

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Oops, I wrote too quickly. You do have to consider the two cases, indeed. What will happen is that you will have two solutions. They are just being very sketchy in the way they write the equation. What they mean is that one can write ##y-1 = K e^x ## for *some* constant K. The constant K will be either ##e^C## or ##-e^C##, depending on the sign of ##y-1##.
 
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CaptainDunzo said:
Homework Statement:: I was tasked to answer/show why e^(ln(abs(y-1))=e^(x+c) simplifies to y-1=Ce^x.
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I started with the top equation. I first said since they were both raised to e it would then change to ln(abs(y-1))=x+c.
A better strategy would be to use the fact that ##e^{\ln y} = y## is an identity for all y > 0. You can use this fact to rearrange the left side. Another identity is ##e^{a + b} = e^a \cdot e^b##.
 
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