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Is there well studied constructions of some kind of extensions of the set of ordinal numbers, where each non zero number x also has the inverse x^(-1) so that x^(-1) x=1?
The discussion focuses on the possibility of extending the class of ordinal numbers to include inverses, specifically whether the multiplicative monoid of ordinals can be transformed into a group. It is established that no such extension exists due to the non-right-cancellable nature of the multiplicative monoid of ordinals. Participants clarify that the class of ordinals lacks arithmetic operations, leading to confusion about the desired type of extension. The conversation highlights the complexities involved in defining operations on ordinals.
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Hurkyl said:Firstly, there are 'too many' ordinals to fit in a set, so you'd have to talk about the class of ordinals.
Now, the class of ordinals doesn't have any arithmetic operations on it -- which did you mean:
(1) You want to know if the multiplicative monoid of ordinals can be extended to a group.
(2) You want to see if there is any binary product on the class of ordinals (or an extension of them) that turns them into a group. (I assume you want associativity)
If you mean the former, then clearly no extension exists; the multiplicative monoid of ordinals is not right-cancellable.