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The discussion focuses on extracting the angle from polar numbers in the context of synchronous generator excitation currents. The original equation presented was corrected to reflect proper polar notation, leading to the conclusion that the angle x equals 35.0996°. The final verification of the calculations confirmed that the equation (2300∠15) = (1154.7∠0) + (305.44∠-60.84) . (4∠90) holds true, demonstrating the accuracy of the calculations involved.

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hi

can anybody advise on this, need to find the angle out of the following

2300=2000+(0.5<x).(4<90)

got as far as

300/4<90 = 0.5<x

= 75<90= 0.5<x

is this correct and anybody able to finish this off

regards
 
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What is 4<90 and 0.5<x ?
 
I think he means polar notation

a \angle ω = a ( cos ω + j . sin ω )

but the OP formula seems to have a typo of some kind; the only expression I can imagine that makes sense is this

2300 = 2000 . ( 0.5 \angle x ) . ( 4 \angle 90 )
= 2000 . 0.5 . 4 cos ( 90 - x )

x = 35.0996°

May be that, or not...
 
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hi yes it is polar notation, got my notation and common sense mixed up (late one last night)

the equation repersents the excitation current angle of a sychronous generator, ( Ia ∠ x ) stands for stator amps at some angle

(2300∠ 15 ) = (1154.7∠ 0) + ( Ia ∠ x ) . ( 4 ∠ 90 )

can some check if

( Ia ∠ x ) = ((2300∠ 15 ) - (1154.7∠ 0) / ( 4 ∠ 90 ))

= (305.4∠-61)

can someone confirm this for me please, if I am wrong please correct ?
 
ah, it's Ia instead of 4... 4 would never get a valid value... that makes sense now; also, if I remember electrics right, you're doing a complex number multiplication, not a vector inner product... so ( a ∠ b ) . ( c ∠ d ) is (ab) ∠ (b+d)... instead of (ab) ∠ (b-d) as I wrote above

so

(2300 < 15) = (1154.7 < 0 ) + ( I < x ) . ( 4 < 90 )
(2221.63 + j 595.28) - ( 1154.7 + j 0 ) = ( I < x ) . ( 4 < 90 )
(1066.93 + j 595.28 ) / ( 4 < 90 ) = ( I < x )
( 1221.76 < 29.16 ) / ( 4 < 90 ) = ( I < x )
( 305.44 < -60.84 ) = ( I < x )

it looks good; confirming result with my trusty Texas calculator:

(2300 < 15) = (1154.7 < 0 ) + ( 305.44 < -60.84 ) . ( 4 < 90 )
(2300 < 15) = (1154.7 < 0 ) + ( 1221.76 < 29.16 )
(2300 < 15) = (2299.99 < 15)
 
thanks for that


regards
 

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