F(x)=(x+1)^0.5, h(x)=x^2+3, what is the range of f(h(x))?

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The problem involves determining the range of the composite function f(h(x)), where f(x) = (x + 1)^0.5 and h(x) = x^2 + 3. Participants are exploring the implications of the ranges and domains of these functions.

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  • Some participants discuss the range of h(x) and its implications for the domain of f(h(x)). There is confusion regarding whether the range of f(h(x)) can be derived directly from the range of h(x).

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Participants are actively questioning their assumptions about the ranges and domains of the functions involved. Some have provided insights into the correct interpretation of the functions, while others express uncertainty about their reasoning and the solutions presented.

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There is a noted discrepancy between the assumed domain of f(h(x)) and the actual domain based on the definition of f(x). Participants are grappling with the implications of these definitions on the overall problem.

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Homework Statement
f(x)=(x+1)^0.5, h(x)=x^2+3, what is the range of f(h(x))?
Relevant Equations
f(x)=(x+1)^0.5, h(x)=x^2+3
Hi everyone

I have solutions to this problem, but still don't understand them.

I thought the range of h(x) was [3, \infty). Wouldn't this make the domain of f(h(x)) also [3, infinity)?

If this is correct, shouldn't the range of f(h(x)) be [13^0.5, infinity)?

Below is a graph of f(h(x)) using the assumption that the range of h(x) is [3, infinity)

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The solutions say
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But the domain of f(h(x)) would need to include 0 for this to be true.
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Thanks

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Darkmisc said:
Homework Statement:: f(x)=(x+1)^0.5, h(x)=x^2+3, what is the range of f(h(x))?
Relevant Equations:: f(x)=(x+1)^0.5, h(x)=x^2+3

Hi everyone

I have solutions to this problem, but still don't understand them.

I thought the range of h(x) was [3, \infty). Wouldn't this make the domain of f(h(x)) also [3, infinity)?

If this is correct, shouldn't the range of f(h(x)) be [13^0.5, infinity)?

Below is a graph of f(h(x)) using the assumption that the range of h(x) is [3, infinity)

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The solutions say View attachment 316489

But the domain of f(h(x)) would need to include 0 for this to be true.
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What is the range of h(x)? How does this compare with the domain of f(x)?

-Dan
 
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topsquark said:
What is the range of h(x)? How does this compare with the domain of f(x)?

-Dan
Thanks.

range of h(x) is [3, infinity).

If I take [3, infinity) as the domain of f(x), the range becomes [2, infinity), which is the answer from the solutions.

I got the wrong answer by using [3, infinity) as the domain of f(h(x)), although I don't really understand why it is wrong.
 
Darkmisc said:
range of h(x) is [3, infinity).

If I take [3, infinity) as the domain of f(x), the range becomes [2, infinity), which is the answer from the solutions.
That's right, because ##[2, \infty)## is the range of ##h##.
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I got the wrong answer by using [3, infinity) as the domain of f(h(x)), although I don't really understand why it is wrong.
It's wrong, because ##f(h(x))## is well-defined for all ##x \in \mathbb R##. Just write it down:
$$f(h(x)) = \sqrt{x^2 + 4}$$If I gave that function to a student and asked what was its domain, they wouldn't say ##[3, \infty)##. Why would they?
 
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Darkmisc said:
I got the wrong answer by using [3, infinity) as the domain of f(h(x)), although I don't really understand why it is wrong.
You already took care of h(x) when you figured out that its range was ##[3,\infty)##. Now you want the range of f(z), NOT f(h(x)), for z in the domain of ##[3,\infty)##. Plugging 3 into f should give you 2.
 
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