Fabricating a storage room inside a large warhouse

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The discussion revolves around the fabrication of a storage room within a large warehouse, focusing on the structural considerations necessary to create an open space without support beams. Participants explore methods to span the distance between existing steel joists and the new ceiling structure while addressing safety and engineering requirements.

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  • One participant inquires about the feasibility of tying into existing steel joists for support and seeks advice on the best method to achieve this.
  • Another participant suggests that the strength of the joists is crucial, noting that some roofs may not support additional loads safely. They propose a gable-shaped lower roof connected at the ridge to mitigate elastic deformation.
  • A different participant mentions the substantial steel trusses and joists in the warehouse, questioning whether fabricating a frame to tie into the existing structure would be effective or excessive.
  • A later reply emphasizes the necessity of consulting a licensed architect or structural engineer for such projects, indicating that DIY approaches based on online information are not advisable.

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Participants express differing views on the structural integrity of the existing joists and the appropriateness of various design solutions. There is no consensus on the best approach to take, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific engineering methods to employ.

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Participants highlight the importance of professional guidance and building permits, indicating that the discussion is limited by the need for expert evaluation of structural safety.

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I am wanting to fabricate a storage room inside a large warehouse. The room will be 46 feet wide x 74 feet long x 10 foot ceiling. We will store tooling inside this room. I have the HVAC, dehumidifier, pedestrian doors and rollup door figured out, but here is my problem:
The ceiling joists of the warehouse are 16 feet from the floor. I need an open storage room - no support beams - in the new room.
I have been trying to figure out the best method to span those distances. Can I tie into the existing joists, which are steel, and if so, what would be the best way to do that? Thanks.
 
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Depends on strength of joists. I have seen some roofs which are incredibly flimsy and likely can not safely support anything besides its own weight.
Generally, if relaying on upper roof strength, i would recommend lower roof to be made in gable shape and to connect to lower roof at one line at top of ridge through the number of short variable-length connecting rods - in this case you will have less trouble compensating for inevitable elastic deformation of upper roof.

If the upper roof is too flimsy, good solution for self-supporting large span lower roof is the saw-tooth shaped roof.
 
Thanks, trurle. There are substantial trusses on the warehouse made of thick steel I-beam, S8 x 23, on 25-foot centers. The joists are 4 inch steel angle x 3/8" thick. It's a pretty hefty roof structure.
Would fabricating a frame, tying that frame into the existing roof structure and then to the new ceiling members work? Or is that overkill?
 
Welcome to PF. Sorry, but this sort of thing requires a licensed architect and/or structural engineer, and a building permit, not a do-it-yourself via information from the internet. Thread closed.
 
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