Factor Theorem Question: Find a and b for P(x) as a factor of T(x)

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The discussion revolves around finding the values of a and b in the polynomial P(x) = x^2 + ax + 1, given that it is a factor of T(x) = 2x^3 - 16x + b. Participants are exploring the implications of the Factor Theorem in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the potential factors of P(x) and their implications for T(x), with some attempting to apply the Factor Theorem. There are questions about the assumptions made regarding the factors and the relationship between the coefficients of the polynomials.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and corrections regarding the approach to finding a and b. Some guidance has been offered on how to relate the coefficients of the polynomials, but no consensus has been reached on the correct values.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential errors in assuming linear factors with rational coefficients and the need to consider the constant term in T(x) as it relates to the factorization process.

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Homework Statement


If the polynomial P(x) = x^2+ax+1 is a factor of T(x)=2x^3-16x+b, find a, b

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


Let (px+q) be a factor of P(x),
p can possibly be 1 and so can q, according to factor theorem,
Hence, factors (x+1) or (x-1)
P(1) = 0, substituting I got -2 as a and P(-1) =0 , I got 2 as a
If either (x+1) or (x-1) is a factor of P(x), it has to be a factor of T(x),
T(1) = 0, I got 14 as b in both cases.
But the correct answer is a=3,-3 and b=-6,6 respectively.
 
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Rithikha said:

Homework Statement


If the polynomial P(x) = x^2+ax+1 is a factor of T(x)=2x^3-16x+b, find a, b

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


Let (px+q) be a factor of P(x),
p can possibly be 1 and so can q, according to factor theorem,
Hence, factors (x+1) or (x-1)
P(1) = 0, substituting I got -2 as a and P(-1) =0 , I got 2 as a
If either (x+1) or (x-1) is a factor of P(x), it has to be a factor of T(x),
T(1) = 0, I got 14 as b in both cases.
But the correct answer is a=3,-3 and b=-6,6 respectively.
Hello Rithikha. Welcome to PF !

You want ##\ p\, x +q \ ## to be a factor of ##\ T(x)\ ## rather than ##\ P(x)\ ##.
 
SammyS said:
Hello Rithikha. Welcome to PF !

You want ##\ p\, x +q \ ## to be a factor of ##\ T(x)\ ## rather than ##\ P(x)\ ##.
But the constant term is b in T(x), we can get q from it. Or can we?
 
Your error is in assuming that P(x) has a linear factor with rational coefficients (which you do when you use the rational root theorem).

Instead let y= P(x) and rewrite T(x) in terms of y.
 
Rithikha said:
But the constant term is b in T(x), we can get q from it. Or can we?

You want ##2x^3-16x + b = (d x + c)(x^2 + ax + 1)##. It is easy to see that we must have ##d = 2##, so we need ##2x^3 - 16 x + b = (2x + c)(x^2 + ax +1)##.
 

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