Factoring Out Ckq in Summation: Proper or Breaking Rules?

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The discussion revolves around proving the relation det(AB) = det(A)det(B) using properties of determinants and cofactors. The original poster attempts to manipulate the determinant expressions involving cofactors and summations, questioning the validity of factoring out cofactors in their approach.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the manipulation of determinant expressions and the implications of using the same summation index for different matrices. The original poster questions whether it is mathematically proper to factor out cofactors in their summation.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes attempts to clarify the use of cofactors and summation indices, with some participants pointing out potential errors in the original reasoning. There is an exploration of different approaches, including a suggestion to consider cases where matrices are singular or nonsingular.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that cofactors depend on the specific matrix, which raises questions about the assumptions made in the original poster's approach. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in manipulating determinant properties.

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Homework Statement



Prove the relation det(AB)=det(A)det(B)

Homework Equations



det A = \sum_{k}A_{kq} C_{kq}

The Attempt at a Solution



Here is what I have done:

(detA)(detB)= \sum_{k}A_{kq} C_{kq} \sum_{k}B_{kq} C_{kq}
= \sum_{k}(A_{kq}B_{kq}) C_{kq}
= \sum_{k}(AB)_{kq} C_{kq}
=det(A+B)

My question is: is it mathematically proper to factor out the Ckq in the summation, or am I breaking some matrix/summation rule here?

Thanks!
 
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digipony said:

Homework Statement



Prove the relation det(AB)=det(A)det(B)


Homework Equations



det A = \sum_{k}A_{kq} C_{kq}

The Attempt at a Solution



Here is what I have done:

(detA)(detB)= \sum_{k}A_{kq} C_{kq} \sum_{k}B_{kq} C_{kq}
= \sum_{k}(A_{kq}B_{kq}) C_{kq}
= \sum_{k}(AB)_{kq} C_{kq}
=det(A+B)

My question is: is it mathematically proper to factor out the Ckq in the summation, or am I breaking some matrix/summation rule here?

Thanks!

This is riddled with serious errors. First: the cofactors ##C_{ij}## depend on the matrix, so you have one cofactor ##C_{ij}(A)## for matrix ##A## and a different one ##C_{ij}(B)## for matrix ##B##. Second, you cannot use the same summation index in both factors, so you need to write something like
\det(A) \det(B) = \sum_{k} a_{kp}C_{kp}(A) \sum_{m} b_{mq} C_{mq}(B),
and this does not really lead anywhere.
 
Ray Vickson said:
this does not really lead anywhere.

Ok, I will try to prove it without summation notation. Thank you
 
Why don't you try considering two cases, one where A is singular and another where A is nonsingular?
 

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