Inequality involving series using Cauchy-Schwartz

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The problem involves proving an inequality related to series using the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality. Specifically, it examines the relationship between the sum of squares of a sequence and the sums of fractional powers of that sequence.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss defining sequences in terms of powers and substituting them into the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality. There is an attempt to derive conditions for the powers used in the inequality.
  • Some participants question the validity of the assumptions made, particularly regarding the convergence of the sums involved.
  • Counterexamples are presented to challenge the original inequality, suggesting that it may be incorrect or based on a typo.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have provided counterexamples that indicate potential flaws in the original statement, while others are attempting to clarify the conditions under which the inequality might hold.

Contextual Notes

There are indications that the problem may contain a typo, as some participants suggest that the left side of the inequality should be different from what is stated. The convergence of the series is also a point of contention, with concerns raised about the implications of the terms involved.

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Homework Statement


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Prove the following:

\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}a_{k}^{2} \leq \left ( \sum_{k=1}^{\infty}a_{k}^{2/3} \right )^{1/2} \left ( \sum_{k=1}^{\infty}a_{k}^{4/3} \right )^{1/2}

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The following generalization of Cauchy-Schwarz present in the text (containing the problem) is useful (assume all the sequences are so that the series converge):

\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}a_{k}b_{k} \leq \left ( \sum_{k=1}^{\infty}a_{k}^{2} \right )^{1/2} \left ( \sum_{k=1}^{\infty}b_{k}^{2} \right )^{1/2}

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I have tried thinking of defining ##a_{k}## and ##b_{k}## as powers of an identical sequence: ##a_{k} = \phi_{k}^{n}## and ##b_{k}=\phi_{k}^{m}##. Substituting into Cauchy-Schwartz I may get an idea of what n and m should be:

\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\phi_{k}^{n}\phi_{k}^{m} \leq \left ( \sum_{k=1}^{\infty}(\phi_{k}^{n})^{2} \right )^{1/2} \left ( \sum_{k=1}^{\infty}(\phi_{k}^{m})^{2} \right )^{1/2}\Rightarrow 2n=2/3,2m=4/3 \Rightarrow n=\frac{1}{3},m=\frac{2}{3}

With these values of n and m I am left with:

\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\phi_{k} \leq \left ( \sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\phi_{k}^{2/3} \right )^{1/2} \left ( \sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\phi_{k}^{4/3} \right )^{1/2}

I don't get the ##\phi_k ^2## on the left side but at least I have the right powers on the right side.

Now if my method is correct I need to show that ##\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}a_{k}^{2}## is bounded by ##\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}a_{k}## (note that I have substituted phi with a but it's just names so it doesn't matter) because the last is bounded by the right side thus proving the initial statement. In the infinite it's somewhat intuitive since the terms get closer and closer to 0 (necessary for convergence) and a small number, x, when squared gets even lower in value so x>x^2 when x small. But this trend is assured in the limit, in the infinite. It says nothing about what the first term, the second, and so on is so I cannot use that reasoning here.

I am stuck so I would appreciate some hints as to what I can do or different approaches to this problem.

Thank you for your time and have a nice day.
 
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I think you have the intended method, but I can't see how to get the right hand side correct if you fix n + m = 2 as the left hand side requires.

Certainly you cannot conclude that \sum_{k=1}^\infty \phi_k^2 \leq \sum_{k=1}^\infty \phi_k: take \phi_k = -1/k^2 for example.
 
I guess this is a typo in the problem statement and the left side should be ak. You cannot prove something wrong.
Consider a1=8, ak=0 for all other k. The left side is 64, the right side is 8.
 
Thank your for your help. The counterexamples definitely make this inequality impossible, so a typo it must be. Have a nice day!
 
Cauchy-Schwarz for ℝN states \vert \sum_{j=1}^{N}u_{j}v_{j}\vert \leq \sqrt{\sum_{j=1}^{N}u_{j}^{2}}\cdot \sqrt{\sum_{j=1}^{N}v_{j}^{2}}. Now, let u_{k}=a_{k}^{\frac{1}{3}} and v_{k}=a_{k}^{\frac{2}{3}}. Then u_{k}v_{k}=a_{k}^{\frac{1+2}{3}}=a_{k}. Cauchy-Schwarz - still for ℝN - gives \vert \sum_{k=1}^{N}a_{k}\vert \leq \sqrt{\sum_{k=1}^{N}a_{k}^{\frac{2}{3}}}\cdot \sqrt{\sum_{k=1}^{N}a_{k}^{\frac{4}{3}}}.
  1. The answer is different from the problem statement
  2. There is no guarantee that the sums under the square root converge as N→∞
 

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