Factorising and integrating a differential

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation related to finding the function V explicitly. Participants are exploring methods of factorization and integration, as well as discussing the nature of the equation, which is identified as a homogeneous ordinary differential equation (ODE).

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in factorizing the equation δ2V/δr2 + 1/r δV/δr - V/r = 0 and proposes a solution V = C1r/2 + C2/r.
  • Another participant challenges this solution, suggesting the equation should be δ2V/δr2 + 1/r δV/δr - V/r2 = 0 instead.
  • A later reply acknowledges the typo and confirms the equation but seeks guidance on deriving V from it.
  • One participant mentions that solutions involve Bessel functions.
  • Another suggests a substitution r=exp(y) to simplify the equation and indicates that multiplying by r^2 clarifies the second term, which does not involve Bessel functions.
  • Another participant notes that the equation is a homogeneous ODE and suggests using the method of letting V=r*W, where W is the unknown function.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct form of the differential equation or the method to solve it, indicating multiple competing views and unresolved aspects of the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions regarding the methods proposed for solving the differential equation, including the role of Bessel functions and the implications of the substitution suggested.

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Having a bit of trouble with this equation, I need to find V explicitly and this would obviously be done by factorising and integrating, but I can't seem to factorise it correctly. I have what I think is the correct answer but can't do the steps to get there. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

δ2V/δr2 + 1/r δV/δr - V/r = 0

which I think goes to:

V = C1r/2 + C2/r

C1 and C2 being constants of integration.
 
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hi eddysd! :smile:
eddysd said:
δ2V/δr2 + 1/r δV/δr - V/r = 0

which I think goes to:

V = C1r/2 + C2/r

no, i think that would be δ2V/δr2 + 1/r δV/δr - V/r2 = 0
 
tiny-tim said:
hi eddysd! :smile:


no, i think that would be δ2V/δr2 + 1/r δV/δr - V/r2 = 0

Yes sorry, typo, that is the correct equation! Do you think you could tell me how to get from that to the equation for V?
 
eddysd said:
δ2V/δr2 + 1/r δV/δr - V/r = 0
Solutions involves Bessel functions.
 
substiution r=exp(y) will give you the required answer .To know why multiply the eqn by r^2 and see the second term and it does not involve bessel functions.
 
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eddysd said:
Yes sorry, typo, that is the correct equation! Do you think you could tell me how to get from that to the equation for V?

Now it is an homogeneous ODE.
So, use the classical method : Let V=r*W and rewite the ODE where W is the unknown function.
 

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