Factorization of an expression

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The discussion revolves around the factorization of the expression $(1+a+\cdots+a^n)^2-a^n$. Participants explore various approaches to factor this expression, examining the implications of the coefficients involved.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the expression can be factored, but there is uncertainty regarding the straightforwardness of this conclusion.
  • One participant expresses doubt about the assertion that $1+..+na^n+na^{n+1}+..+a^{2n}$ is the product of $(1+a+..+a^{n+1})$ and $(a^{n-1}+..+1)$, suggesting that this is not an obvious conclusion.
  • Another participant notes that while the factorization is not straightforward, it is suggested by the observation that the coefficients decrease after $a^{n+1}$.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the factorization, with multiple competing views and uncertainties remaining regarding the nature of the expression and its factorization.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of the factorization process and the dependence on the interpretation of coefficients, which may not be universally agreed upon.

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Factorize the expression $(1+a+\cdots+a^n)^2-a^n$.
 
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anemone said:
Factorize the expression $(1+a+\cdots+a^n)^2-a^n$.

$(1+..+a^n)^2=1+2a+..+(n+1)a^n+na^{n+1}+..+a^{2n}$.

So $(1+a+\cdots+a^n)^2-a^n=1+..+na^n+na^{n+1}+..+a^{2n}=(1+a+..+a^{n+1})(a^{n-1}+..+1)$
 
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Fermat said:
$(1+..+a^n)^2=1+2a+..+(n+1)a^n+na^{n+1}+..+a^{2n}$.

So $(1+a+\cdots+a^n)^2-a^n=1+..+na^n+na^{n+1}+..+a^{2n}=(1+a+..+a^{n+1})(a^{n-1}+..+1)$

Thanks for participating, Fermat. But I don't think it's straightforward to conclude that $1+..+na^n+na^{n+1}+..+a^{2n}$ is actually the product of $(1+a+..+a^{n+1})$ and $(a^{n-1}+..+1)$.
 
let f(a) =$ (1+ a+ \cdots + a^n)^2 - a^n$

so f(a)(a-1)^2 = $(a^{n+1} -1)^2 - a^n(a-1)^2$
= $(a^{n+1}-1)^2 - a^n(a-1)^2$
= $a^{2n+2}- 2 a^{n+1} + 1 - a^n(a^2 - 2a + 1)$
= $a^{2n+2} - a^{n+2} - a^n + 1$
= $(a^{n+2} - 1)(a^n-1)$

so f(a)=$((a^{n+2} -1) / (a-1) * (a^n - 1)/(a-1)) $
= $ ( 1 + a + \cdots + a^{n+1}) ( 1 + a + \cdots + a^ {n-1})$
 
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anemone said:
Thanks for participating, Fermat. But I don't think it's straightforward to conclude that $1+..+na^n+na^{n+1}+..+a^{2n}$ is actually the product of $(1+a+..+a^{n+1})$ and $(a^{n-1}+..+1)$.

No it's not straightforward, but it is suggested by the fact that the coefficients decrease after $a^{n+1}$.
 
Fermat said:
No it's not straightforward, but it is suggested by the fact that the coefficients decrease after $a^{n+1}$.

Oh okay.
 

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