Failed Rocket Momentum Problem (Kleppner 4-4)

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The problem involves a rocket that explodes at the peak of its trajectory, resulting in two pieces with different masses and horizontal motions. The context is rooted in momentum conservation and kinematics, specifically focusing on the horizontal distances traveled by the pieces post-explosion.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum and the implications of horizontal and vertical velocities. There is an exploration of the relationship between the velocities of the two pieces and their respective distances traveled.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered hints and clarifications regarding the distinction between vertical and horizontal velocities. There is an indication that one participant has made progress in their understanding, while others are verifying the logic behind their reasoning.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, including the assumptions about the velocities at the moment of explosion and the effects of time on the motion of the pieces. There is a focus on ensuring that the conditions of the problem are accurately interpreted.

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Homework Statement



An instrument carrying rocket accidentally explodes at the top of its trajectory. The horizontal distance between the launch point and the point of explosion is L. The rocket breaks into two pieces that fly apart horizontally. The larger piece has three times the mass of the smaller piece. To the surprise of the scientist in charge, the smaller piece returns to Earth at the launching station. How far away does the larger piece land? Neglect air resistance and effects due to the Earth's curvature.

Homework Equations



Momentum conserved
Kinematics equations

The Attempt at a Solution



Let M4 = initial mass
Let 3m = mass that flies away from the launch site.
Let m = mass that flies towards the launch site.

4m * V(M4) = - m * V(m) + 3m * V(3m)

Since velocity at the top is 0:

M4(0) = - m * V(m) + 3m * V(3m)

m * V(m) = 3m * V(3m)

Therefore V(3m) = V(m)/ 3

Since m travels L horizontally,

L = V(m) * t

therefore V(m) = L/ t

If we plug in V(m) = V(3m) * 3

we get V(3m) = L / (t*3) (since velocities are all horizontal, both take the same amount of time to fall down)

Plugging this into the Kinematics Eqn for distance, we get

D = V(3m) * t - .5 * 9.8 * t^2

D = (L/(3*t)) * t - .5 *9.8 * (L/(3*(v(3m)))^2

I don't know how to get rid of the v(3m).

thanks in advance.
 
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You seem to be confusing vertical velocities and horizontal velocities.
 
thanks for the hint. it helped me realize that the initial mass's velocity in the x-direction is not zero at the top and then I solved the problem.
 
May the solution be D=(5/3)L?
 
did you do by this logic?

Momentum of small piece + Larger piece = total mass * speed before explosion
 
Yes, and assuming that the time that the total mass, the small piece, and the large piece are flying through the air is the same, as movement in the x direction is concerned.

Is it all right?
 

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