Failing Calculus Dont know if i want to be an engineer

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The discussion centers around the challenges of failing a calculus course and the implications this has for pursuing a career in engineering. Participants share personal experiences and offer encouragement, while also addressing the broader context of academic struggles in STEM fields.

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  • The original poster expresses deep personal struggles, including unemployment and emotional distress, which impact their ability to focus on calculus.
  • Some participants share anecdotes of successful individuals, like Tracy Caldwell Dyson, who also faced difficulties in calculus, suggesting that failure in this subject does not preclude future success in engineering.
  • One participant emphasizes that calculus is just the beginning of a series of math courses required for engineering, indicating that persistence is necessary.
  • Another participant recounts a story about a professor who helped students improve their grades significantly through intensive review, highlighting the importance of effort and available resources.
  • Several responses encourage the original poster to focus on studying for the upcoming final exam, suggesting that doing well could improve their overall grade.
  • One participant advises against dwelling on negative emotions and instead encourages proactive learning and practice, emphasizing that understanding calculus is more important than the grade itself.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of studying and the potential for improvement, but there is no consensus on how to best navigate the emotional and practical challenges of failing calculus. Multiple perspectives on the significance of grades versus understanding are present.

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Some participants mention personal distractions and external pressures that may affect academic performance, indicating a complex interplay of factors influencing success in calculus and engineering.

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This discussion may be useful for students facing academic challenges in calculus or other foundational courses, particularly those considering careers in engineering or related fields.

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Failing Calculus :( Dont know if i want to be an engineer

I am posting this because i wanted to be an engineer at one point,but now I am not too sure. At one point during this course i was actually on the brink of being homeless. I had no job, no food or anything. As a matter of fact i was unemployed for about four months; I cry every night. I truly feel like i 'CAN' become an engineer but life keeps screwing me over. Its a different feeling to fail something when it is not even your fault. Its hard to focus in a class when literally everything is against you. If any of you are wondering how i was able to pay for my class; its because of my financial aid. When i registered for the class i was not expecting to become unemployed. I guess i am at a crossroads, this is my second time attempting to take calc 1 and I am about to call it quits. I have a final on Monday but I am feeling so indiffferent, i dot think it even matters. Some words of inspiration would be good; If someone has failed engineering courses and has still became an engineer or an educator[something else i wanted to do]...please post ALL or ANY of your testimonies. Any trials, times of adversity, let me know that there's still hope out there for me. :/
 
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Pretty cliche, but Tracy Caldwell Dyson, NASA astronaut currently in orbit on the ISS, admits to making a D her first time around in Calculus. I can't really speak from any personal experience, but I found that interesting to know.
 


I'm sorry to hear that, but the truth is calculus is only the first step of many to becoming an engineer. You'll have to take more math courses after calculus. Not all of them will be particularly practical, but they will likely be required if you want to be an engineer.

The best thing you can do is study for your final and pass it. There is still a lot of time until Monday. I've leave you with an inspiring story, but maybe not the one you're looking for. Decades ago, my previous math professor was called into give a crash review course for calculus for a group of "remedial" students (those who had not done well in the course) the day before the final. This was his longest lecture ever, since for I think 14 hours - barring bathrooms breaks - they did nothing but calculus. Everyone got A's and B's on the final, but most of them forgot the material a week later.

You have more than a day, and although you don't have my math professor, you still have resources. For one, you clearly have access to internet. Read your textbook, use Google or wikipedia to look stuff up, use the forums. You should give nothing short of your best attempt to pass the course.
 


Your best bet is to study as hard as you can for the final. It's likely worth a significant portion of your grade, so you can really bring your grade up by doing well on it!

You have A LOT of time until Monday; many students don't even study for a test until the night or two nights before! Start studying TODAY if you haven't already!

I was getting a C in a class last semester (I was also distracted by personal problems), but studied hard for the final, got an A in it, and thus got a B+ in the class.

It may be hard to remind yourself of this, but doing poorly in Calculus, even failing it, does not mean that you failed at being an engineer. In fact, most of the engineering classes that I have taken have used only a small portion of what I was taught in Calculus.
 


Brownfractals said:
I am posting this because i wanted to be an engineer at one point,but now I am not too sure. At one point during this course i was actually on the brink of being homeless. I had no job, no food or anything. As a matter of fact i was unemployed for about four months; I cry every night. I truly feel like i 'CAN' become an engineer but life keeps screwing me over. Its a different feeling to fail something when it is not even your fault. Its hard to focus in a class when literally everything is against you. If any of you are wondering how i was able to pay for my class; its because of my financial aid. When i registered for the class i was not expecting to become unemployed. I guess i am at a crossroads, this is my second time attempting to take calc 1 and I am about to call it quits. I have a final on Monday but I am feeling so indiffferent, i dot think it even matters. Some words of inspiration would be good; If someone has failed engineering courses and has still became an engineer or an educator[something else i wanted to do]...please post ALL or ANY of your testimonies. Any trials, times of adversity, let me know that there's still hope out there for me. :/

Well, the first thing you should do is stop crying every night. It sounds callous, but feeling sorry for your situation isn't going to help you out of your situation. If you're laying in bed crying, then get up, stop crying, and review the chain rule, or practice integration. Whether you fail the course or not, tell yourself that the important thing is whether you LEARN calculus. It's not necessarily about the grade. Focus on your differentiation techniques, your integration techniques, your rules and theorems, and PRACTICE. Go above and beyond the call of duty. Go to Khan Academy and look at Sal's calculus videos. They will help.

Good luck. I'm taking calculus I myself, and I just got my first test back.. a 75. I was rather upset about it myself. So, really, I feel for you. Practice practice practice.
 

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