Fermionic nature of quantum gravity

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The discussion revolves around the nature of quantum gravity, specifically whether it can incorporate fermionic fields in addition to the traditionally accepted bosonic fields. Participants explore the implications of a recent paper that suggests a torsional theory could lead to fermionic characteristics arising from geometric structures.

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  • One participant references a paper suggesting that quantum gravity may involve fermionic fields, questioning the traditional view that gravity is solely bosonic.
  • Another participant interprets the paper as indicating that gravity remains bosonic, but that fermions could emerge from bosonic fields or geometry.
  • A third participant mentions the concept of bosonization, implying a connection to the discussion without providing specific details.
  • A fourth participant notes familiarity with one of the authors and draws a parallel to previous work in the field, indicating a historical context for the discussion.

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Participants express differing interpretations of the implications of the paper regarding the nature of gravity, with no consensus reached on whether gravity can be considered fermionic or if it remains strictly bosonic.

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In this new paper today http://arxiv.org/abs/1105.4184, is it considered whether quantum gravity actually has fermionic fields rather than just bosonic fields:

Abstract
It is generally assumed that the gravitational field is bosonic. Here we show
that a simple propagating torsional theory can give rise to localized geometric
structures that can consistently be quantized as fermions under exchange. To
demonstrate this, we show that the model can be formally mapped onto the
Skyrme model of baryons, and we use well-known results from Skyrme theory.
This begs the question: Is geometry bosonic or fermionic (or both)?

So what do you think? Does this change our view on quantum gravity radically?
 
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Actually, I thought it said that gravity is still bosonic, but that one could get fermions from bosons (or rather fermions from geometry).

This reminds me of http://arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0407140 .
 
I haven't studied these papers, but it reminds me to the well-known bosonization
 

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